• Geodes & Gems@lemmy.ml
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    Smartphones are such an utter wretch nowadays, & I’m not even sure if there was a time they weren’t. I don’t get the appeal of a smartphone, they do everything a dumbphone does but worse, more expensive & with an unremovable thick layer of scum, yeah a smartphone has some of the features of a laptop or desktop but who needs that baked into their phone for every moment?

    People are trying so hard to fix smartphones (even by giving money to the least privacy respecting companies ever by buying Google phones) when they can get a dumbphone and be rid of those problems in the first place. Well that’s my opinion at least, I think it might be a bit extreme.

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    You can still go graphene and isolate play services in a secondary profile.

    For a better future: Organisations and services that structure themselves to require third party services need to take contractual responsibility for the actions in their fulfillment supply chain, just as an online retailer takes responsibility for delivery agents. Google play services harvesting needs to be reflected in the privacy policy of every company that doesn’t provide alternative access.

    Wonder what will happen if we all start making data protection complaints about enforced non contractual third party data harvesting?

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    Let’s hope the EU prevents this from happening. We should be able to access every site we wish without Google’s permission.

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    If google requires me to permit other companies to leech all my personal data to be able to use anything on the Internet at all, I say we label Google, Microsoft, Apple as criminal organizations

    I’m sorry, bit there have to be limits.

    I. DO. NOT. WANT. TO. USE. ANYTHING. GOOGLE.

    OR APPLE. OR MICROSOFT.

    FUCK ALL THESE OLIGARCH COMPANIES INTO THE GROUND

    I do not want my private data leeches and sold every day, I don’t even get paid for it

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    what will this mean for the upcoming motorola phones that can come with gOS installed?

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      That’s probably a reason they’re doing this now. To stifle what might start to be a sizable amount of pushback. Sizable is still single digits but if it hits a whole % instead of >1 then we might start getting somewhere

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      They’re still subject to the same dumbassery Google is trying to pull. Any OS that doesn’t conform to Google Play standards is a target.

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          And then Google retaliates by not allowing Motorola to include Google Play on any of their devices. In the end, Motorola just cancels their GrapheneOS partnership.

          Monopolies are the number one reason everything sucks, and will continue to suck until we get non-corrupt politicians (which is impossible)

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            Motorola has two options:

            A. Cancel the GOS partnership and cause a boycott on ThinkPads (don’t forget, Lenovo owns Motorola).

            B. Put their feet in the ground, die a hero and maybe bring Google down.

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            It may be impossible to have fully uncorrupt politicians, but voters had a choice and enthusiastically maximized corruption here in America.

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    This is really bad even just from the perspective of user behavior. Training people to scan QR codes from anything that looks like a captcha box is HORRIBLE for security.

    “Thanks for scanning the code, just one more step! Please input your phone number, and type in the code you receive.”

    Boom, account stolen.

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      And the phone number thing is already happening too. Google, discord and probably other stuff already ask for a phone number to prove you are a human when they flag your account.

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    It’s funny, I hadn’t noticed, maybe because any site aleeady using reCAPTCHA or cloudflare alreadt gets blocked by my ad blocker… If those sites can’t do better on their own, its just another thing you don’t need. This is kind of a nothing burger. Stay strong and let google commit suicide.

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      Are you blocking Cloudflare at an IP level? Or just when they do that “Are you human?” thing? So much of the Internet goes through Cloudflare for DDoS protection, and blocking AI bots, I’m surprised there’s anything left.

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      How do you do that. I would love a Cloudfare free web experience. They suck.

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      That would make the two of us. My Fairphone 3+ is still kicking well with /e/OS.

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      What they are doing is way worse tban what you understood.

      These QR codes will show on your Desktop PC and you will need an Android phone or an iOS device with a logged in Google QR code app to get past it.

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          Ayup that has been the holy grail of big tech.

          They are most of the way there today. Make Identity Resolution inescapable. Bing bang boom.

          It is more than just phones and lappys too. It’s everything. That smart TV. That fitness watch. That automobile. That streaming music service. The ebook reader you got as a birthday gift.

          Your behavior across every single device is data gold. This is today’s reality.

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            Yep, data gold to sell to data brokers and investors so they can sell you shit that you don’t need and can’t even afford.

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        I wouldn’t scan shit from a website. Random QR codes are a security risk. Just won’t visit that website.

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          That’s why you have to use the special google app that will protect you from all these dangers*

          *and also collect all your data, sell it to advertisers and forward it to US surveillance agencies (for your own protection of course).

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            Sad thing is, that argument works against so many ppl. “I can trust this app. It’s from Google!”

            We(*) are tearing down personal computing. Brick by brick. The very idea of controling our own devs is getting lost. Replacing with Big Tech Feudalism.

            (*) Not most of us here. But in the whole pop.