carbrain is “this is the fault of 3 million parallel, separated, individual actors” a lot
I think the problem is most people suck at driving but they are forced to because there are literally no alternative methods of transportation in like 95% of burgerland. A robust public transit system would do a lot to mitigate this, both tailgaters and tailgatees.
Honestly I find myself saying “I really wish you didn’t have to drive” to myself a lot while commuting
If I start thinking that then I start thinking about the kind of life I’d have in a civilized society and it makes me very sad so I don’t do that.
There are so many people for which driving is the favorite part of their day.
Many of whom also suck at driving
they think they are “good” at driving because they pass a bunch of cars every time they drive but very few pass them. Mario Kart mentality
Everyone is 12
Most of my commute is down from the mountainous area of my state, so I don’t mind the windy backroads at all. It kind of does end up being a highlight of my day at Soul Sucking Job LLC.

driving like rallycross is fun, a suburban commute is hell and anyone who genuinely likes that needs reeducation
Driving can be therapeutic in a way that’s hard to describe. I could find some sort of satisfaction driving almost anything; bus, forklift, riding mower, Zamboni… something about steering a machine around a space just scratches the itch. It helps if you have the right vehicle and a manual transmission to maximize the stimming potential.
I wouldnt impose this on all of society, but I’m sure there are others like this, that’s why so many people dream of being a bus driver
Same reason I love sailing at night. Just pure nothing but the view.
It helps if you have the right vehicle and a manual transmission to maximize the stimming potential.
I recently started working out heel toe shifting and it’s super fun.
I wouldnt impose this on all of society
Especially the person who would rather watch tiktok videos instead of focusing on driving their Kia Telluride or whatever
The venn diagram of people who like their suburban commute and divorced dads is a circle.
Never met anyone miserable enough to say this out loud
I love watching tailgating. It’s a microcosm for the futility of hyper-individualism.
No, the car in front of you will not de-matrrialize like an ghost if you get behind them long enough. Nor will I. I am in charge of your destiny if not only because you put so much stake in trying to egg me on instead of passing.
I’m not even sure if those kinds of people don’t consciously either I swear like 80% if the time someone will tailgate, maybe pass or have the person in front of them change lanes, and then just tailgate the next person
And oh FUCKING man, when you notice someone driving like an ass on the freeway and you pull up 1 car length behind them on an offramp when you just hit the second lane and cruise controlled at 70 the whole time: that shit hits like a drug. Nothing like it.
And oh FUCKING man, when you notice someone driving like an ass on the freeway and you pull up 1 car length behind them on an offramp when you just hit the second lane and cruise controlled at 70 the whole time: that shit hits like a drug. Nothing like it.
My favorite is when someone is riding aggressively and tailgating and then try to pass the person they were tailing on the right when there’s perfectly clear lanes to the left and I can slow down just enough to block them from being able to get in front of that other car and force them to slow down to get around the car they were tailgating just to pass on the left.
You get it
Chaotic good
I’m not even sure if those kinds of people don’t consciously either I swear like 80% if the time someone will tailgate, maybe pass or have the person in front of them change lanes, and then just tailgate the next person
The cyclist anglophone world calls this MGIF-Syndrome: Must get in front.
The cyclist variant of MGIF-syndrome is when you pass someone and then at the next red light they catch up to you AND they pull in front of you, but they’re still slow as shit so you pass them again and this pattern continues. I would understand if they at least accelerated fast, but they don’t. I always feel like grabbing them and asking them “WHY???”
Tangentially related, but mostly just venting
Oh no, I’m leaving at least 3 seconds of space to the car in front of me, the horror! I’m glad you almost got us into a wreck to get ahead of me in tight traffic during rush hour by not using your blinkers. You are now going exactly the same speed you were before, except you are now one car ahead. Stand proud, you’re deranged.
Recently went on an impromptu road trip across a good chunk of the Western US. Fuck Idaho and Washington drivers. Thought it was just my imagination living out here for so ling but nope, these people just suck extra hard on the road and hate seeing you leave any space at all in front of you if they can squeeze in for a quarter mile then back to their original lane for no reason.
Don’t get me started on merging…
When everyone is tailgating behind you, the problem in most cases is actually car centric infrastructure and the fact that traffic past a certain density stops behaving like individual motor vehicles and starts to behave like a fluid (similar things go for dense crowds of pedestrians, btw).
People are too selfish to slow down to the speed of the traffic clump and leave some buffer room, but it seriously makes driving on a shitty busy road a lot more bearable.
Sure, but that still does not absolve an individual of being a responsible driver.
This is the rock stacking thread all over again.

Lol what a dumbass
I wish people understood that the distance between your car and the one in front of you does not affect your speed at all. Stop tailing people who are stuck behind slowpokes. They can’t go any faster and neither can you.
I wish I was attractive in real life as my car is to other cars.
Bro I was going 48 in a 45, on a 2 lane (1 each way) road between 2 parks. Some jackass decided I wasn’t going fast enough so they passed me. Immediately caught up to them at the light like 1/10th a mile later. People do not understand safety, speed, driving, etc.
Completely antisocial behavior, and it’s always the ones with the gigantic SUV that think they’ve got a right to be driving recklessly just because they can afford a killing machine.
I hate that there’s no law enforcement on it while there is on driving a bit over the speed limit on a highway, the first is definitely the more dangerous thing to do, just like the people that cut everyone off by doing reckless zigzags.
I’ve seen people do this in ways that I would 100% no second thoughts take their license away forever and fine them a crapton if it were up to me, these people should not be given the right to drive their own vehicles if they cannot control themselves and be a normal part of society.
Make them take the bus for life, that way maybe they will grow a social consciousness and see the need for better public transport that everyone benefits from.
It’s illegal to tailgate in many places. I’ve seen and heard of many cases of people being ticketed or even arrested if they catch other charges on top of it like using a vehicle as weapon or dangerous/reckless driving. The really bad offenders eventually do get caught even if they are getting away with it 99% of the time. Traffic court is full of these MFers everyday
Saw 95 comments in this post and was like oh no struggle sesh but very relieved to open it and see it’s just everyone piling on cars and aggro drivers


I tailgate so I can pretend I’m actually in a train
Edit: this is a joke, I don’t even own a car lol
somewhat sympathetic but please still don’t
Sorry, should’ve made it clear I’m joking
Not defending it, but this is how it works. Legally, if this is the case, you are in the wrong. You must match the flow of traffic. A lot of driving is being able to assume what another car is doing and what it’s going to do. If you are going slower than what other expect, you are making the road less safe for everyone.
This is obviously an enormous issue with driving, and limits the transportation ability of the disabled and the elderly.

Not defending it, but this is how it works. Legally, if this is the case, you are in the wrong. You must match the flow of traffic.
you are the traffic
If you’re in front of a line of cars you may well be the cause of a traffic jam that lasts for an hour tbh.
I was going to reference the same video to show how an individual CAN in fact affect the flow of traffic for everyone else. One person hitting the brakes causes a chain reaction.
Edit: while I think this video supports my point it’s also not indicative of real road conditions. On a highway, being the only car going exactly the posted speed limit is dangerous. The ‘flow of traffic’ is a real thing. If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?
thing. If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?
No, you ride (also drive) only within the visual stopping distance except for very rare circumstances. Also what if that guy just ate shit and is lying unconscious on the ground because of an oil spill?
Also what if that guy just ate shit and is lying unconscious on the ground because of an oil spill?
I would help him
I don’t want to torture my hypothetical bicyclist anymore!
I would help him
I seriously don’t understand how this meshes with your view of the flow of traffic
I was going to reference the same video to show how an individual CAN in fact affect the flow of traffic for everyone else. One person hitting the brakes causes a chain reaction.
okay so what if somebody has to brake because they got cut off or something
The person who changed lanes without enough space/speed caused the traffic jam.
It’s a terrible system of transportation and we all want to get off the road as fast as possible.
The person who changed lanes without enough space/speed caused the traffic jam.
How’s tailgaiting help with this?
Or if they were tailgating and had to brake suddenly rather than smoothly because they don’t have a large following distance?
The person cutting off is most likely the problem.
They need to match speed and merge in where there is space; if you see traffic merging in to your lane, leave space for them (drop speed by ~2 kph) so you don’t have to brake.
If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?
You’re mixing things here. They would not be in the wrong for walking their bike or otherwise traveling a section of limited visibility slowly and with caution. You never know what could be around the corner! In your scenario, they are in the wrong for traveling down the middle and not sticking to the correct side for their jurisdiction.
walking their bike or otherwise traveling a section of limited visibility slowly and with caution.
What if there is fine visibility and no observable reason to be walking your bike?
If it’s a path that also allows pedestrian use then there’s still no issue. If it’s truly for cycling only the yeah it’s a problem and it’s incumbent on that person to get out the way, preferably to a sidewalk.
Youtube putting giant recommendation tiles over the entire video at the halfway point

remember clickable thumbnails in videos and how the removal broke like 90% of videos of 5 years?
Reminds me of that time I tried learning android development and all the functions in the year old tutorial I followed were depreciated
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Surely this isn’t true, legally, if you’re traveling at or above the posted speed limit.
It’s a little more complex depending on location and number of lanes, but in general yes even if it means going above the speed limit, you must not impede the flow of traffic.

Where I’m at it’s only illegal to go slower than the flow of traffic in the left (passing) lane. This does apply to people doing more than the speed limit. If you are going the speed limit you have to rock the farthest lane to the right so as to not impede traffic.
Whenever I play never have I ever, I always use “never have I ever driven over 80mph” as an easy out, loads of fingers go down.
Totally makes up for it when statements about butt stuff come up and I get out.
I’m sure everyone will be very normal in this thread.
fuck it I’m fuel dumping on the fire: y’all ever think it’s odd that a lot of leftists arrive at the exact same solutions, outcomes and policies as turbochuds when it’s cars? Odd, innit
Chuds suggest linking the cars together and putting an engine only on the front car?
if everyone is tailgating the locomotive, there is no problem
That’s the other way around to what I’m malding about
Chuds love monster trucks (as we all should) and what you’re describing sounds like a potential beast of a monstertruck
y’all ever think it’s odd that a lot of leftists arrive at the exact same solutions, outcomes and policies as turbochuds when it’s cars? Odd, innit
Other than the guy with the sus pfp who is doing this?
Platners hb account.
Leftists all want lifted Dodge 1500s with no muffler?
yeah but admittedly on account of that wasn’t confined to this thread or even this platform
Na, I just tip the break pedal for a second to light the break-lights, which reliably will convert my tailgater to the problem again.
no no no no no surely all the drivers behind me will realize that you are purposefully doing this and think you are the problem. Im one of the good ones, they have to know!
Adding a fourth pedal which just actuates the brake light without braking
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