carbrain is “this is the fault of 3 million parallel, separated, individual actors” a lot

  • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I think the problem is most people suck at driving but they are forced to because there are literally no alternative methods of transportation in like 95% of burgerland. A robust public transit system would do a lot to mitigate this, both tailgaters and tailgatees.

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    I love watching tailgating. It’s a microcosm for the futility of hyper-individualism.

    No, the car in front of you will not de-matrrialize like an ghost if you get behind them long enough. Nor will I. I am in charge of your destiny if not only because you put so much stake in trying to egg me on instead of passing.

    I’m not even sure if those kinds of people don’t consciously either I swear like 80% if the time someone will tailgate, maybe pass or have the person in front of them change lanes, and then just tailgate the next person

    And oh FUCKING man, when you notice someone driving like an ass on the freeway and you pull up 1 car length behind them on an offramp when you just hit the second lane and cruise controlled at 70 the whole time: that shit hits like a drug. Nothing like it.

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      And oh FUCKING man, when you notice someone driving like an ass on the freeway and you pull up 1 car length behind them on an offramp when you just hit the second lane and cruise controlled at 70 the whole time: that shit hits like a drug. Nothing like it.

      My favorite is when someone is riding aggressively and tailgating and then try to pass the person they were tailing on the right when there’s perfectly clear lanes to the left and I can slow down just enough to block them from being able to get in front of that other car and force them to slow down to get around the car they were tailgating just to pass on the left.

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      I’m not even sure if those kinds of people don’t consciously either I swear like 80% if the time someone will tailgate, maybe pass or have the person in front of them change lanes, and then just tailgate the next person

      The cyclist anglophone world calls this MGIF-Syndrome: Must get in front.

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        The cyclist variant of MGIF-syndrome is when you pass someone and then at the next red light they catch up to you AND they pull in front of you, but they’re still slow as shit so you pass them again and this pattern continues. I would understand if they at least accelerated fast, but they don’t. I always feel like grabbing them and asking them “WHY???”

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    Tangentially related, but mostly just venting

    Oh no, I’m leaving at least 3 seconds of space to the car in front of me, the horror! I’m glad you almost got us into a wreck to get ahead of me in tight traffic during rush hour by not using your blinkers. You are now going exactly the same speed you were before, except you are now one car ahead. Stand proud, you’re deranged.

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      Recently went on an impromptu road trip across a good chunk of the Western US. Fuck Idaho and Washington drivers. Thought it was just my imagination living out here for so ling but nope, these people just suck extra hard on the road and hate seeing you leave any space at all in front of you if they can squeeze in for a quarter mile then back to their original lane for no reason.

      Don’t get me started on merging…

  • SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    When everyone is tailgating behind you, the problem in most cases is actually car centric infrastructure and the fact that traffic past a certain density stops behaving like individual motor vehicles and starts to behave like a fluid (similar things go for dense crowds of pedestrians, btw).

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    I wish people understood that the distance between your car and the one in front of you does not affect your speed at all. Stop tailing people who are stuck behind slowpokes. They can’t go any faster and neither can you.

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    Bro I was going 48 in a 45, on a 2 lane (1 each way) road between 2 parks. Some jackass decided I wasn’t going fast enough so they passed me. Immediately caught up to them at the light like 1/10th a mile later. People do not understand safety, speed, driving, etc.

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    Completely antisocial behavior, and it’s always the ones with the gigantic SUV that think they’ve got a right to be driving recklessly just because they can afford a killing machine.

    I hate that there’s no law enforcement on it while there is on driving a bit over the speed limit on a highway, the first is definitely the more dangerous thing to do, just like the people that cut everyone off by doing reckless zigzags.

    I’ve seen people do this in ways that I would 100% no second thoughts take their license away forever and fine them a crapton if it were up to me, these people should not be given the right to drive their own vehicles if they cannot control themselves and be a normal part of society.

    Make them take the bus for life, that way maybe they will grow a social consciousness and see the need for better public transport that everyone benefits from.

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      It’s illegal to tailgate in many places. I’ve seen and heard of many cases of people being ticketed or even arrested if they catch other charges on top of it like using a vehicle as weapon or dangerous/reckless driving. The really bad offenders eventually do get caught even if they are getting away with it 99% of the time. Traffic court is full of these MFers everyday

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    Saw 95 comments in this post and was like oh no struggle sesh but very relieved to open it and see it’s just everyone piling on cars and aggro drivers wholesome


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    Not defending it, but this is how it works. Legally, if this is the case, you are in the wrong. You must match the flow of traffic. A lot of driving is being able to assume what another car is doing and what it’s going to do. If you are going slower than what other expect, you are making the road less safe for everyone.

    This is obviously an enormous issue with driving, and limits the transportation ability of the disabled and the elderly.


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      Not defending it, but this is how it works. Legally, if this is the case, you are in the wrong. You must match the flow of traffic.

      you are the traffic

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            I was going to reference the same video to show how an individual CAN in fact affect the flow of traffic for everyone else. One person hitting the brakes causes a chain reaction.

            Edit: while I think this video supports my point it’s also not indicative of real road conditions. On a highway, being the only car going exactly the posted speed limit is dangerous. The ‘flow of traffic’ is a real thing. If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?

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              thing. If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?

              No, you ride (also drive) only within the visual stopping distance except for very rare circumstances. Also what if that guy just ate shit and is lying unconscious on the ground because of an oil spill?

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                Also what if that guy just ate shit and is lying unconscious on the ground because of an oil spill?

                I would help him

                I don’t want to torture my hypothetical bicyclist anymore!

            • 7bicycles [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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              I was going to reference the same video to show how an individual CAN in fact affect the flow of traffic for everyone else. One person hitting the brakes causes a chain reaction.

              okay so what if somebody has to brake because they got cut off or something

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                The person who changed lanes without enough space/speed caused the traffic jam.

                It’s a terrible system of transportation and we all want to get off the road as fast as possible.

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                The person cutting off is most likely the problem.

                They need to match speed and merge in where there is space; if you see traffic merging in to your lane, leave space for them (drop speed by ~2 kph) so you don’t have to brake.

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              If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?

              You’re mixing things here. They would not be in the wrong for walking their bike or otherwise traveling a section of limited visibility slowly and with caution. You never know what could be around the corner! In your scenario, they are in the wrong for traveling down the middle and not sticking to the correct side for their jurisdiction.

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                walking their bike or otherwise traveling a section of limited visibility slowly and with caution.

                What if there is fine visibility and no observable reason to be walking your bike?

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                  If it’s a path that also allows pedestrian use then there’s still no issue. If it’s truly for cycling only the yeah it’s a problem and it’s incumbent on that person to get out the way, preferably to a sidewalk.

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        It’s a little more complex depending on location and number of lanes, but in general yes even if it means going above the speed limit, you must not impede the flow of traffic.


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        Where I’m at it’s only illegal to go slower than the flow of traffic in the left (passing) lane. This does apply to people doing more than the speed limit. If you are going the speed limit you have to rock the farthest lane to the right so as to not impede traffic.

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    Whenever I play never have I ever, I always use “never have I ever driven over 80mph” as an easy out, loads of fingers go down.

    Totally makes up for it when statements about butt stuff come up and I get out.

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    Na, I just tip the break pedal for a second to light the break-lights, which reliably will convert my tailgater to the problem again.