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      For me it sure does. Fuck ass people insisting that it’s not okay to disqualify people from your dating pool is stupid

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        Everybody’s always saying you can deny a relationship with anyone for any reason until it’s a reason they personally don’t agree with.

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          I mean, any reason for not wanting a relationship is a good reason because a relationship where one person doesn’t even really want it is going to be a shit relationship.

          That said, I might still judge you if your reasons are shitty.

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          You have the right to refuse for any reason, that doesn’t absolve you of how you will be perceived though.

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            There it is. You can choose not to date anyone for any reason, but if you’re smart you won’t tell anyone.

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          Why would I care about someone else not dating someone. That’s insane behaviour

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          my favorite is people who say they don’t care about the reason, and then use the same reason to reject people.

          or who whine about being rejected for a reason, and use that same reason to reject people.

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      I’m not disagreeing with the point of your statement, but I do want to clarify that vaginas absolutely stretch, just not permanently. You’ll have a very different experience if you work up to fisting over a couple of hours vs. launching right into it, because vaginas loosen with arousal.

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        The important thing is that they are elastic - they don’t stay stretched. They’re not like sweaters that stay stretched out forever after someone large wears them, more like rubber bands that stretch temporarily before returning to their typical size. I think that’s why OP used the term “stretch out,” as too many people seem to think once a vagina stretches, it’s a permanent change. It’s such a weird misconception.

        Giving birth stretches a vagina more than any penis (or fist) ever could. Though birth can make some changes that last, it’s more like “Now I need a larger size menstrual cup” than “Now penises just slide back out,” as the popular belief would have people believe.

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          Yeah I was gonna mention the menstrual cup thing. The fact that they perceive the vagina as a purely receptive sleeve also suggests that they’ve rarely if ever had a woman orgasm on their dick. Hubs reports varying perceptibility between different episodes but that the muscular contraction is often robust.

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      I don’t think people caring about body count has anything to do with physical things other than drastically increased odds of STIs and certain cancers.

      I think mature adults realize that sex is never just sex, it forms attachments whether you want it or not. Screwing around forming and cutting off attachments constantly kind of fucks with your capacity to emotionally invest in an actual relationship.

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        Not everyone does form those attatchemnts. There are plenty of poeole out there who can just have sex and have a good time and move on.

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        If your brain one days goes like ‘I should fuck a thousand guys’ and you don’t immediately shut it down, there’s something terribly wrong with you, and that’s before accounting for the STI you are absolutely carrying.

        Now. Clearly some incels have an irrational low idea of what a ‘normal’ bodycount should be, but 1000 in one day ain’t it either.

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          I’ve had sex with 3 women and rejected sexual advances from 7, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want a woman with similar statistics.

          Someone might call me an incel for wanting a women with about three bodies but the truth is I’ve remained voluntarily celibate for the vast majority of my single life. I view sex as a big deal and something to be enjoyed only with someone you love. It’s not crazy to want someone with a similar mindset, and if you have 10 bodies you either have too different of a mindset or you’re way way outside my age range.

          It’s really ridiculous how extensively I need to spell this out to not get called an incel. People have reasons. We don’t need to jump to conclusions with the least charitable interpretation all the time. Unfortunately it seems like that’s literally the only thing a lot (if not most) people are capable of doing nowadays.

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        i think the way you’re describing the process as “screwing around, forming and cutting off attachments” really shows that you think of it in a very black and white sort of way. one can have casual / fwb sex with their friends, and still have a friend relationship with that person. one can even have one-off sex with an acquaintance or stranger, and even if you never meet again, it doesn’t really make it a “cut off” relationship; if you met again, it would be pleasant, circumstances just may not arrange it

        just because it’s a more emotionally involved process for you or some people you’ve encountered, doesn’t make it a universal truth

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          Sure, you CAN do these things. That doesn’t mean it’s not diminishing your capacity to be emotionally invested in your relationships.

          We can spend all day blowharding and traversing all the layers of subconscious processes abstracted into social constructs, how we are able to rationalize anything if we want to, and so on. But I think you can only get so far with that, when all I’m trying to describe is something pretty much everyone already understands intuitively.

          “You can’t turn a hoe into a housewife”

          Works with gender/role flipped too, obviously.

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            i genuinely do not “intuitively understand” this idea. there’s nothing contradictory about being a hoe and a housewife

            can you like, explain this? i really don’t understand how having multiple sexual relationships, specifically, diminishes one’s ability to have emotionally fulfilling relationships. if anything, i might be inclined to think they would have more emotionally fulfilling relationships 💀

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            I’m gonna be dead honest with you. The reason you think that high bodycount means that you’re somehow fundamentally different as a person e.g. incapable of being a “housewife” is because you do not have a high bodycount yourself and its incomprehensible for you, when in reality it’s really just not that big a deal.

            No one with a high bodycount thinks of themselves as having a high bodycount. At one time all those people had a low bodycount and they were the same people then as they were after they had a high bodycount.

            At most they’re “sexually experienced”, in gamer terms they’re the people with 500 games in their steam library and to them the average person is kinda like the person who only plays F2P mobile gachas, so yeah they’ll have higher standards but they also probably know what’s good and what works.

            None of this is inherently good or bad, it just is.

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              Nah. There is a mountain of science related to how sex influences practically every part of your nervous system, affecting brain function and in turn, emotional processing.

              But I agree with you, it’s not good or bad, cause it’s not my life and people are free to do what they want. I just think people ought to be aware that emotional connection is not an infinite resource before they start giving it away willy nilly.

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        Yeah, it’s more about the fact that it’s really reckless behavior for tons of reasons for me. I don’t need someone like that in my life. Literally every really promiscuous person I know is living a train wreck of a life. Most of them are pretty shitty people otherwise too. Some of them have grown out of it, but with that they became more stable in their relationships and aren’t sleeping around like they used to. I’m not saying it’s impossible to sleep around and not have tons of issues but I haven’t witnessed it so to me it’s a red flag.

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      If they don’t stretch out, then why do some doctors offer complimentary tightening surgery on postpartum mothers?

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        They don’t stretch out from having a dick put in them. But giving birth is literally a physically traumatic event. Ligiments get slack so bones can shift around, and it is not uncommon for the flesh around the vagina to experience significant tearing. The whole thing is quite horrifying. Post pregnancy medical procedures may be necessary not just to have a tight pussy, but to be able to not constantly be peeing yourself.

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          Yeah go make any mom laugh they will tell you they’re gonna pee their pants

          Source: milfs

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          litigation

          🤣

          What’s sexist about perpetuating the idea that vaginas do or don’t stretch out? Or what’s sexist about doctors offering to tighten up stretched vaginas? Please explain.

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            It’s called “the husband stitch” becase because it was done for the husbands pleasure, not for the wife’s medical needs, often without the wife’s consent. It also might cause sex to be more painful for the woman, even as it was more pleasurable for the man; which is too bad for the woman, because her husband had a legal right to rape her in the United States until the 1970s.

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            The only thing dumber than your comments is the Piefed decision to replace the downvote button with an emoji button that doesn’t load until just before I try to click the close button.

            Sexist men tell women they have loose vaginas to try and shame them for their sex organs. Arguing it’s true is also sexist.

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        Ouch. That is so fucked up. I am older and have been structurally tight (skin too tight at opening) sex hurts when it goes on too long. The “husband stitch” is abusive. And doctors do it because they do episiotomy, which is also awful because that cut doesn’t heal as well as a repaired natural tear and you might not tear at all.

        Complimentary tightening surgery my ass. That doesn’t help mothers at all.

        Rehab with kegels does help and obviously if you tear, a repair. The midwife recommended working up to fisting before having a baby and man I wish I had taken that advice.

        But being tight right at the opening of the vagina just hurts, there is no advantage to it.

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            I don’t think you know what you’re talking about or your fellow downvoters. I read that in a reputable publication over well about three decades back and I take their word over some naysayer online with no backup information or sources.

            Not only that but I’ve had women tell me it’s true that vinegar cleans smells and tightens the area. You are not a reputable source.

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              Youre not right about this. Im sorry. Some women do douche, but most doctors will advise against using anything like this. Mild soap externally is all that is recomended by most Obgyns.

              This info you have is old wives tales, not modern science.

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                I read this in the late 90s. And I’m still siding with them over some bandwagon jumper on her off the fucking internets. You’re not a reliable source. Someone else said something that sounded authoritative so perhaps nevertheless.

                Also I don’t give a shit. I was just sharing what I read from an authoritative source, you can piss all the way off.

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                  This …line of thinking is why my step father wouldnt let me or my sister shower while on the rag in our teens. He had some old ass info, ignored doctors, and me and my sister suffered at the hands of his misinformation. He wouldnt even buy us tampons or pads and we used paper towels. I have no idea why he said we couldnt shower while having a period. The man was a fool and now lives in isolation. anyway…

                  ita okay to be wrong, but its not okay to spread that info. it can harm women.

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    If it were a man fucking 1000 girls in a day, we’d all celebrate. What’s more unattractive than a high body count? Insecurity.

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      No, did you get your idea of gender roles from reading feminist books in the 90’s while never having actually set foot on earth’s surface from your flying saucer? A lot of men and women would have various kinds of issues if you were a man who fucked 1000 women in one day you fucking space alien.

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          tell that to all the women in my life i’ve dated who think i’m a filthy slut for sleeping with more than a handful of women.

          and who had more partners than me. almost as if the double-standard is the person’s projected shame.

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        wow, wow, buddy. this is the internet.

        we can’t have reasonable and common sense takes here. JUST GENDER RAGE.

        should report you for HATE speech, with all this reasonable commentary you have here.

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      If it were a man fucking 1000 girls in a day, we’d all celebrate.

      This statement makes me doubt that you know any actual human people irl.

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        How are all of you so blind to not see the obvious double standard. Many men have been celebrated for their promiscuity and even their sinister actions. Trump is one of these men and managed to win the US election twice. It’s worth celebrating Bonnie blue for at least doing it for the hustle.

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          Trump is celebrated for being a pedo and a cheat? What reality you live on?

          The left is hounding everyone about how it makes him a shit person, and the right pretends it never happened in order to not hurt his image.

          There’s nothing worth celebrating in a person deciding that fucking 1000 people in a day is a life goal

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            He blatantly gloats about his lifestyle and while today he’s shy about Epstein and young girls he certainly wasn’t back on campaign in 2016. The point being that men receive a less critical eye regarding sexual promiscuity compared to women. I trust you get that and you’re just being difficult to frustrate me. I’ll let it pass.

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              him being proud of being a pedo freak and a cheat doesn’t mean he is being celebrated for it.

              You’re fucking insane if you think a guy fucking 1000 girls in a day as some sort of publicity stunt wouldn’t be as mocked as the other way around.

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                It wouldn’t be talked about with as much controversy, no way. It certainly wouldn’t have the same staying power that Bonnie’s scene has managed.

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          The theoretical maximum would be 4 hand jobs at once. Supposing one BJ and 4 HJs, and a generous 10 minutes per batch, you could, in theory, get up to 720 in 24 hour period. To get to 1000, you’d need to complete your batches in 7 minutes or less.

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            Idk my head game is p strong. I bet I could cycle through each group of four in 5 minutes.

            Maybe put some porn or something on in the background for the guys so I’m not trying to work them up from nothing.

            My biggest worry would honestly just be food and water. I’m a prissy bitch when I haven’t eaten and idk if horny me is strong enough to power through. If anything would stop me from getting through all thousand in 24 hours, it’d probably be the french fry break.

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      All? Nah, I’d be wearing PPE and calling a health department to give people STD tests and see if a super spreader event just happened, regardless of sex, gender, or orientation.

      No way the condoms are having a 100% success rate at the number in a single 24 hours.

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        Yep that’s right, orgies and sex parties are notorious for diseases. There’s no way the exact opposite is true and you’re a lazy bigot who couldn’t be more clever insulting pro sex communities. Crack another joke jester, but maybe try this time yeh?

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          Yep that’s right, orgies and sex parties are notorious for diseases.

          I mean, yeah?

          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4714774/ (Increased levels of Gonorrhea in certain models of MSM)

          https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12879-021-05813-5 (Increased odds of STIs in cis/bi swingers)

          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3410442/ (Higher odds of transmission in an orgy, and that’s just based on self reporting - actual transmission numbers are higher)

          https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100623212635.htm (Much higher increased rates of STIs among elderly swinger/group sex communities)

          These are just some statistics proving that, even though basic damn logic and math would normally lead a person of basic levels of intelligence to conclude that the logistics of such events would increase the odds of STIs spreading; much like a person with the flu sneezing in a plane, even with a mask, is more likely to infect others than 2 people in an open field - but I understand providing empirical data is important still.

          Note that none of these events involved anywhere close to a 1001 people in a single day. Which means the odds would be much higher with that many people in involved, as screening that many people fully would be both expensive and more difficult to do in an organized manner, and the odds of a condom slip or other protective measure failing would only go up.

          But by all means, do keep talking and showing everyone your magnificent grasp on basic statistical logic.

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    I don’t care if shes fucked a lot of dudes. If she’s clean, or only has something I’m prep/vax’d against I’d still be down to get with her she’s hot as hell.

    I only take issue with it being presumably a dumb publicity stunt thing. Like, if she fucked that many guys over the course of a few years it’d just mean she had a really high libido and a desire for variety. But that many in one go? That just sounds unpleasant.

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      According to Wikipedia it’s true, and as a world record attempt a notary must have been present to count the men. There’s another job I don’t envy.

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        I don’t get the point of notaries. Anyone could be a notary – you just have to pinky promise that you saw something happen under oath

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          Yeah I mean you pay money and take a little course to become a notary and you have to reup every year (or three years? I can’t remember). The point is you take on legal liability. A notary cannot claim, “i didn’t realize, I didn’t know, I didn’t double check.” Most of the money you pay is in liability insurance in case you screw up. Because if a notary stamps their name to something false, they bear the legal liability which is enough for a notary to not take the risk of flippantly stamping things that are untrue.

          You can also legally marry people.

          There are also legal limits to how much you can charge (like 10 bucks and document or something. It’s not much). Since each stamp doesn’t earn much, but the liability could cost you a lot, it keeps notaries pretty honest. It’s a decent system.

          Mostly only nerds are notaries anyway, so the promising and putting your name to something does some of the heavy lifting by itself

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          Anyone could be a notary – you just have to pinky promise that you saw something happen under oath

          The notary has to be approved by the State. Basically, if a notary attests to some fact, it is as if the entire government bore witness to it.

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            has to be approved by the State.

            That’s still just a glorified pinky promise… I guess what I’m trying to say is that being notary sounds like a super easy job

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              being notary sounds like a super easy job

              It is, which is why basically nobody is only a notary. It’s like being CPR certified. Great, but your day job is gonna be something else.

              If you look up where notaries are in your state database, they’re in places like law firms or banks or insurance companies, where their day jobs are something different (paralegal, bank teller, locksmith, etc.), and where they can sign a few documents for $20 and record it in their ledger.

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          You think that someone would break the sacred oath they took to become a notary? What is this world coming to…

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    you’re an incentive if you care about bodycount

    Maybe, but I do care about orders of magnitude in bodycount. Being in the low single digits myself I definitely prefer partners that do not have a bodycount three orders of magnitude higher.

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    No fucks given about the body-count. Not putting a stop to it at the point it becomes traumatizing AND leaning-in on the trauma in public quotes? I relive all the times I let myself almost-break for a dollar enough in therapy enough, without risking strangers asking me about it or calling me “brave”(as if THAT’S what would happen…) No mistake, good-on-her for following-through if she genuinely wanted to or deemed it that important, but from the sound of it…

    … Oh, and let’s not pretend society(or even 95+% of women who despise OOP, rightly or otherwise…) would be cool with me being cool with that and still wanting to date Bonnie Blue this side of her-changing-career-paths and me magically having enough money to “fix” her, either. I’m not interested in increasing the number of judgy “I got mine”/aspiring prudes in this world, TYVM.

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      Like yeah, I mean, I’m not that bothered that she fucked a thousand guys. I mean it kinda does, but what really puts me off is the thought processes that led to this event. Because clearly that isn’t something that happened on an impulse.

      Like, I get doing dumb shit on impulse. I’ve done dumb shit on impulse. But this clearly had required planning, finding a thousand stupid dudes, organising logistics, hopefully std screening, etc.

      At some point during all that, if your braincells don’t light up and you don’t realize it’s not a thing you should be doing… There’s something inherently wrong with you.

      There’s also something wrong with the 1000 guys that partricipated but that’s another can of STD infected worms

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        Nothing wrong with it until she decided, probably after the fact, that it was wrong all-along, and she should probably at least pretend to regret it, as if society and people like you would ever forgive her, or just as likely, an angle for her to seize the spotlight for another precious moment without really trying. Thankfully, there’s people like you she was able to wring another few precious pennies from.

        I’m not here for anyone’s perscriptive “should she have done that?” agendas, and your double-speak on the matter is gross.

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          I never knew she existed until reading this post, I haven’t looked her up, and will forget about her the moment this post disappears from my timeline. She got nothing from me. I don’t have to forgive her for anything, not only because it’s her lifestyle choices and she only really harmed nobody but herself in the process. but also because ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, I don’t care all that much. She’s an irrelevant person who achieved nothing and, like I said, I will forget about her about as quickly as I learned about her.

          And, again, while I do find the act itself somewhat repulsive and somewhat of a deal breaker for me, what really puts me off here is the lack of basic brain cell functionality. Like I said, there likely was plenty of time for her to stop and think about it and she clearly did not.

          And this goes for everyone involved in the planning and realization of her actions that day.

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    i’m more concerned about how many guys were lining up

    Maybe after the first 10 it should direct the queue into a room with a therapist to work out whatever problems they’ve got

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    She must be like the biggest porn addict of her sex, to even want to do that. After a while she’s not going to be taking any pleasure from the experience.

    In a way it’s disrespectful to people who’ve undergone similar sexual assault - does she not realise many women are literally scared of having sex with men or even being around men they don’t trust? It’s weird.

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      How is it disrespectful to women who have experienced “similar” sexual assault (bearing in mind, this wasn’t sexual assault, she literally asked for it and planned it all out)? By that logic, it would be disrespectful to women who have experienced sexual assault for women to have sex at all.

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        You may not realise this, but a historical problematic influencer called Adolf Hitler was actually an oxygen addict, and so by referencing a breathable atmosphere youre being incredibly antisemitic.

        Hope this helps!