A picture of the same place, Gaza, before and after the war.
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“The Final Solution for the Palestinian problem”
Yeah, that’s a direct quote of an Israeli government official.
It’s pretty obvious by now that Zionists are the ideological inheritors of NAZIsm.
The only difference is that the West supports these Nazis.
Zionism is the unholy marriage between capitalism and the Abrahamic death cults.
Its crazy for me that the main three religions all want to see the world end in apocalypse. How inhuman.
What difference?!
The West also supported the previous NAZIs until they attacked other Westerners.
There are pictures of Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth) being taught how to make a NAZI salute by her uncle the then King. Also the US had some big NAZI movement and was selling to both sides of the War until Pearl Harbour.
(Britan is an especially backwards society compared to the rest of Europe, IMHO - an opinion I formed from living there for over a decade)
At least amongst the power elites in the West the White Supremacist shit is alive and well and there’s no biggest and purest White Supremacist power than Israel (anybody who doubts the “whiteness” of their supremacist practices only needs to go look at how they treat Black Jews from Ethiopia).
That’s why it was so easy to slander Palestinians as a people in the eyes of Western Public Opinion for so long - they just leveraged the existing racism around “Muslims” - and that’s also why the reaction to the Russian invasion of Ukraine was so different: that was White on White violence hence more naturally seen as unnacceptable.
The Zionist shit, like the NAZI shit, is a continuation of the same white “colonialism” shit from the 19th century - Israel’s “Western Values” are the 19th century European values - and whilst (or so I like to think) a large part of Public Opinion in the West has somewhat evolved since then (more in Europe that the US, IMHO), the power and political classes have not and still operate based on views about other people that are the same as the 19th century power elites.
So will they carve out land for the homeless Palestinians like they did for the homeless Jews without consent from the current inhabitants?
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Hilarious.
They “need” Lebensraum, same as the NAZIs, and you can be pretty damn sure that people who support military operations where actual children are activelly targetted by snipers when playing at home, believe and even feel that it’s absolutelly right and moral for them to take whatever they want from those of ethnicities they see as less than human and even call “vermin”.
The similarities between Zionist and NAZI slogans, policies and actions are extreme, differing in little more than which ethnicities they see as “ubermenschen” and “untermenschen” and using slightly different words for the same slogans (for example, the NAZI “Lebensraum” is the Zionist “Greater Israel”, the NAZI “superior race” is the Zionist “God’s chosen people” and so on)
That part.
The irony of a genocided people doing the genocide…
Well, that’s the thing, they are NOT a “genocided people”.
Most of the people who got “genocided” (which, never forget, were not only Jewish people) were from Eastern and Western Europe, whilst most of the people who moved to Israel by a very large margin were from Russia and the Middle East.
Further, there is no such thing as a “Jewish Hive Mind” or a pathway for pain and trauma to spread along ethnic lines: practicing the Jewish Religion does not magically make one a victim of the Holocaust unless one was actually a victim (at any level, even if just being forced to flee) or directly related to a victim.
The number of Jewish people in Israel who are actually victims or related to victims of the Holocaust is a bit over 10% of the Jewish population there.
Generalizing from individual victims to “race” is a Racist way of thinking. No, they’re not “all the same” and the life experiences and morals of an individual aren’t ditctated by the life experiences and morals of other unrelated individuals who only share an ethnicity and this applies in all ways, both for “good” things and “bad” things.
The Holocaust for the powers that rule Israel is little more than a Big Propaganda Tool because very few people in Israel were affected by it hence their own personal trauma from it is ZERO, so instead it’s used to spread “racial fear” and other such common elements of supremacist indoctrination.
So yeah, for the overwhelmingly majority of Israelis there’s really no Moral Break to stop Genociding others due to they themselves or their family having been victims of that themselves, because those Israelis were never directly or indirectly victims - they have only heard about it and when they did it was generally wrapped in “see, we have to protect our Race” kind of discourse that just deepened their own Racism and made them MORE likely to support Genocide along racial lines to “protect our race”.
What we have there is a supremacist nation where a past of extreme violence against other members of the same ethnicity was weaponized for Racist indictrination, making the people living there more extreme in their Racism and with a much stronger “we must defend our race” mindset, hence more likely to commit Genocide rather than less likely.
The Holocaust is no fable. Israelis in general being victims of the Holocaust is a total fable - some Israelis were, but most were not, neither directly nor indirectly.
do you have any source on that? I always was udner the impression that most of the people that moved to pissrael post-WW2 were from the USA. West europe before that. They certainly are the more dominant group with west asian or north african jews that moved there facing racist discrimination from their “fellow” jews.
Aliyah in Wikipedia
That impression you have is what the Zionists want you to have.
It’s all part of the Zionist Propaganda meant to make Westerners feel that “Israelis are like us” and hence side with Israel due to the inherent Racism that most people have (the more Racist the person the more a “they’re like us” perception gets Israel their support, which is the whole point of that propaganda). Same reason why Zionists talk about Israel having “Western Values”.
The reality is very different and culturally Israel isn’t actually a Western nation with Modern Western Values, which probably explains why raging murderous Racism and supremacist beliefs are extremelly common there whilst much rarer in Europe and even in the US.
Oh wow another reason to hate the fall of the ussr and subsequent capitalist shock therapy
i don’t believe that the murderous racism or supremacist belief has any root other than “western values” though. I’d certainly need quite a bit of convincing that this is a product of eastern european culture. To me it’s more likely that the settlers from eastern europe found themselves in a racist society and ten adapted.
The “moders western values” very much include racism, not towards jews anymore, but certainly muslims/asians, russians, dfricans etc.
Absolutelly.
My point (which, truthfully, is my hope mixed with my general experience of living in a couple of countries in Europe) is that the casual mass murdering of people of other ethnicities merelly because of their ethnicity is not a Modern Western Value at least amongst the masses (the elites are something else altogether, though I expect there we’re talking more about high levels of Sociopathy and Psychopathy making them uncaring about human life rather than racial hate), or at least in Europe (the US is still VERY murderous towards non-whites and it’s unclear how much that reflects the preferences of the general population).
So literally I’m saying that the “Modern” part in Modern Western Values is merelly not letting the Racism turn into casual Murder, which is a step forward from 19th century Western Values.
As with everything this is an average - I’m sure there are plenty of Europeans who are rabid supremacist racists who would kill those they see as being from lesser races if they could get away with it, they’re just very rare (the rabid level racists rather than “milder” racists) in Europe even whilst in Israel they seem to be over 80% of the population.
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Those things are simpy the product of older ways of thinking back when human life was universally seen as worth very little. They’re not specifically Western but Western culture also had them.
Things like the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights came to be because we slowly moved away from a calous view of other people. My impression is that Russia is decades behind the rest of Europe in the cultural shift where people are seen as having inherent rights, just as countries within Europe are at different points in that shift though seemingly most are not quite behind as Russia.
As for Eastern Europe specifically, from my own personal experience with friends and acquaintances from a couple of countries from EE (and the Balkans), it varies a lot from country to country and even within countries. For example, the perspective on Human Rights of an Hungarian from the countryside is very different from that of an Estonian from Tallinn.
This… isn’t really a good comparison to make here - 70% of the european jewish population had been killed in the holocaust; there weren’t very many left who could move to Israel.
And how exactly does that alter the reality that the vast majority people living in Israel are not Western Europeans or the descendants of those, hence the values of most Israelis are not those of Western Europe?
You’re just providing a reason for the present reality which is that the vast majority of Israelis do NOT have the kind of trauma from being victims of a Genocide which the previous poster expected would stop them from inflicting the same trauma on others.
Your “Israel ended up with the bad guys because all the good guys were killed” point doesn’t alter the reality that Israelis are mostly bad guys doing evil shit, and it sure as hell doesn’t excuse them for the evil shit they’re doing.
Entirelly different people getting mass murdered doesn’t excuse the actions of these people who are unrelated to them in any way form or shape except practicing the same religion.
… What? I said nothing even close to that, where on earth did that come from?
To my point that only a small fraction of the Israeli Jewish population (which overwhelmingly supports the Gaza Genocide) has Western European origins and thus were directly or indirectly victoms of the Holocaust, and hence that’s why Israel is more likely to commit Genocide than otherwise, you added that most Western European Jews were murdered by the NAZIs.
That logically adds to the same as saying that “Israel ended up with people more likely to commit Genocide because those less likely to do so were killed”.
Granted, I assumed that for you “people who commit Genocide” are “evil people” and people “who are against commiting Genocide” are “good people”, so just replaced the former with the later.
Guess I was wrong in my assumption that you see Genocide as a universal bad thing no matter who commits it. My bad.