A picture of the same place, Gaza, before and after the war.
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It ain’t a war. It’s a genocide.
It can be both.
before and after the *genocide
And people have the NERVE to use the October 7th or Hamas excuse.
An eye for an eye right? Looks like the Palestinians need to kill 70k Jews and level most of Isreal to make it biblically even now.
@nicpicname
You are right.
“The Final Solution for the Palestinian problem”
Yeah, that’s a direct quote of an Israeli government official.
It’s pretty obvious by now that Zionists are the ideological inheritors of NAZIsm.
The only difference is that the West supports these Nazis.
Zionism is the unholy marriage between capitalism and the Abrahamic death cults.
Its crazy for me that the main three religions all want to see the world end in apocalypse. How inhuman.
What difference?!
The West also supported the previous NAZIs until they attacked other Westerners.
There are pictures of Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth) being taught how to make a NAZI salute by her uncle the then King. Also the US had some big NAZI movement and was selling to both sides of the War until Pearl Harbour.
(Britan is an especially backwards society compared to the rest of Europe, IMHO - an opinion I formed from living there for over a decade)
At least amongst the power elites in the West the White Supremacist shit is alive and well and there’s no biggest and purest White Supremacist power than Israel (anybody who doubts the “whiteness” of their supremacist practices only needs to go look at how they treat Black Jews from Ethiopia).
That’s why it was so easy to slander Palestinians as a people in the eyes of Western Public Opinion for so long - they just leveraged the existing racism around “Muslims” - and that’s also why the reaction to the Russian invasion of Ukraine was so different: that was White on White violence hence more naturally seen as unnacceptable.
The Zionist shit, like the NAZI shit, is a continuation of the same white “colonialism” shit from the 19th century - Israel’s “Western Values” are the 19th century European values - and whilst (or so I like to think) a large part of Public Opinion in the West has somewhat evolved since then (more in Europe that the US, IMHO), the power and political classes have not and still operate based on views about other people that are the same as the 19th century power elites.
So will they carve out land for the homeless Palestinians like they did for the homeless Jews without consent from the current inhabitants?
Idaho
Hilarious.
They “need” Lebensraum, same as the NAZIs, and you can be pretty damn sure that people who support military operations where actual children are activelly targetted by snipers when playing at home, believe and even feel that it’s absolutelly right and moral for them to take whatever they want from those of ethnicities they see as less than human and even call “vermin”.
The similarities between Zionist and NAZI slogans, policies and actions are extreme, differing in little more than which ethnicities they see as “ubermenschen” and “untermenschen” and using slightly different words for the same slogans (for example, the NAZI “Lebensraum” is the Zionist “Greater Israel”, the NAZI “superior race” is the Zionist “God’s chosen people” and so on)
That part.
The irony of a genocided people doing the genocide…
Well, that’s the thing, they are NOT a “genocided people”.
Most of the people who got “genocided” (which, never forget, were not only Jewish people) were from Eastern and Western Europe, whilst most of the people who moved to Israel by a very large margin were from Russia and the Middle East.
Further, there is no such thing as a “Jewish Hive Mind” or a pathway for pain and trauma to spread along ethnic lines: practicing the Jewish Religion does not magically make one a victim of the Holocaust unless one was actually a victim (at any level, even if just being forced to flee) or directly related to a victim.
The number of Jewish people in Israel who are actually victims or related to victims of the Holocaust is a bit over 10% of the Jewish population there.
Generalizing from individual victims to “race” is a Racist way of thinking. No, they’re not “all the same” and the life experiences and morals of an individual aren’t ditctated by the life experiences and morals of other unrelated individuals who only share an ethnicity and this applies in all ways, both for “good” things and “bad” things.
The Holocaust for the powers that rule Israel is little more than a Big Propaganda Tool because very few people in Israel were affected by it hence their own personal trauma from it is ZERO, so instead it’s used to spread “racial fear” and other such common elements of supremacist indoctrination.
So yeah, for the overwhelmingly majority of Israelis there’s really no Moral Break to stop Genociding others due to they themselves or their family having been victims of that themselves, because those Israelis were never directly or indirectly victims - they have only heard about it and when they did it was generally wrapped in “see, we have to protect our Race” kind of discourse that just deepened their own Racism and made them MORE likely to support Genocide along racial lines to “protect our race”.
What we have there is a supremacist nation where a past of extreme violence against other members of the same ethnicity was weaponized for Racist indictrination, making the people living there more extreme in their Racism and with a much stronger “we must defend our race” mindset, hence more likely to commit Genocide rather than less likely.
The Holocaust is no fable. Israelis in general being victims of the Holocaust is a total fable - some Israelis were, but most were not, neither directly nor indirectly.
most of the people who moved to Israel by a very large margin were from Russia and the Middle East.
do you have any source on that? I always was udner the impression that most of the people that moved to pissrael post-WW2 were from the USA. West europe before that. They certainly are the more dominant group with west asian or north african jews that moved there facing racist discrimination from their “fellow” jews.
That impression you have is what the Zionists want you to have.
It’s all part of the Zionist Propaganda meant to make Westerners feel that “Israelis are like us” and hence side with Israel due to the inherent Racism that most people have (the more Racist the person the more a “they’re like us” perception gets Israel their support, which is the whole point of that propaganda). Same reason why Zionists talk about Israel having “Western Values”.
The reality is very different and culturally Israel isn’t actually a Western nation with Modern Western Values, which probably explains why raging murderous Racism and supremacist beliefs are extremelly common there whilst much rarer in Europe and even in the US.
Oh wow another reason to hate the fall of the ussr and subsequent capitalist shock therapy
The reality is very different and culturally Israel isn’t actually a Western nation with Modern Western Values, which probably explains why raging murderous Racism and supremacist beliefs are extremelly common there whilst much rarer in Europe and even in the US.
i don’t believe that the murderous racism or supremacist belief has any root other than “western values” though. I’d certainly need quite a bit of convincing that this is a product of eastern european culture. To me it’s more likely that the settlers from eastern europe found themselves in a racist society and ten adapted.
The “moders western values” very much include racism, not towards jews anymore, but certainly muslims/asians, russians, dfricans etc.
whilst most of the people who moved to Israel by a very large margin were from Russia and the Middle East.
This… isn’t really a good comparison to make here - 70% of the european jewish population had been killed in the holocaust; there weren’t very many left who could move to Israel.
And how exactly does that alter the reality that the vast majority people living in Israel are not Western Europeans or the descendants of those, hence the values of most Israelis are not those of Western Europe?
You’re just providing a reason for the present reality which is that the vast majority of Israelis do NOT have the kind of trauma from being victims of a Genocide which the previous poster expected would stop them from inflicting the same trauma on others.
Your “Israel ended up with the bad guys because all the good guys were killed” point doesn’t alter the reality that Israelis are mostly bad guys doing evil shit, and it sure as hell doesn’t excuse them for the evil shit they’re doing.
Entirelly different people getting mass murdered doesn’t excuse the actions of these people who are unrelated to them in any way form or shape except practicing the same religion.
Your “Israel ended up with the bad guys because all the good guys were killed” point
… What? I said nothing even close to that, where on earth did that come from?
Israel “knew” that the enemy were hiding in every brick and tile! Or alternatively, they are in fact operating as a genocide machine
@MrSulu
They deliberately destroy everything until Gaza becomes uninhabitable.
Is this the same place? The buildings don’t look like a match, there’s remains in places where there weren’t any buildings before (assuming I’m recognizing the road correctly).
Asking because usually on these comparisons I can very clearly see the remains and where the buildings used to be so it’s an easy match, but not in this one.
I hope Israel fucks off and peace can return to your people.
It’s not the exact same location, both of the pictures however are in gaza city
@ChairmanMeow
All of Gaza has been destroyedPicture 1 is clearly taken from a building, you can see the rail at the bottom of the picture. Most likely this building has ceased existing so Picture 2 is most likely a drone shot of the area.
Sure, but how do the buildings line up then? Since if I’m judging where the road was correctly the mosque should be roughly at the bottom edge of the upper-right quadrant of the image. Yet there’s carcasses of buildings below that area on the 2nd picture that aren’t there on the 1st. They might barely be out of shot in the 1st, but none of the carcasses on the left side of pic 2 seem to line up with the buildings there in pic 1.
They’re completely different areas, someone posted a Google maps link of the area. In fact satellite view has been updated so you can see the devastation of the area. Picture 2 doesn’t show that area, the mosque in question had it’s dome blown off and you can see down inside the building now.
Thanks, that explains it then. Both Gaza, different location.
This is the mosque pictured:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HCWWLpcD5jeLS4BZ6
There is no railing, that’s the sky from the bottom picture.
If you goto satellite view… They’ve updated the maps recently.
Damn those reviews make it even more depressing
@PoliteDudeInTheMood @ChairmanMeow
All of Gaza has been destroyed
This street is called Rashid Street. Before the war, and after the war, it was the most beautiful street in Gaza.Gonna be really difficult lining anything up at this point.
GPS coordinates haven’t changed
What Israel does to a mf.
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