• k0e3@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 days ago

    As a Japanese person, I fucking LOVED beans on toast when I visited London. Don’t listen to the stupid haters.

    • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      I actually had something similar on an English breakfast when I was in Canada, but the beans were sweetened with maple syrup.

    • ghen@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      I mean it’s something my 8-year-old would come up with. Doesn’t mean it tastes bad, it’s just childish

  • sobchak@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    Never tried it, but beans and wheat together give you all the essential amino acids (like rice and beans), so it makes sense.

    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      53
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      And the comparison doesn’t even make sense. Like British beans on toast is low effort breakfast food that people make at home. Japanese people rarely make sushi at home. A better comparison would be Natto.

      • FishFace@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        34
        ·
        3 days ago

        There’s a whole other comment thread about that. But food doesn’t need spices to be delicious - most relevant to the picture, sushi does not have spices in it.

        • pirc_lover@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          3 days ago

          Not only that, but the British use a hell of a lot of both herbs and spices in traditional cooking. And also there’s the whole mildly racist element in not considering Anglo-Indian cuisine (which is very distinct from traditional Indian) to be British food.

      • Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 days ago

        We stole the spice so we could make them inhale cinnamon powder.

        Whilst they were coughing profusely we then stole the opium…

      • Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Haggis is great

        Lorne sausage is so bad they had to fashion it into a novelty shape

        The British crime of pork pies should never be forgiven

      • FishFace@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        3 days ago

        Every culture has horrible food too, but so what?

        Haggis is a bad example though. Bet you’ve never eaten it.

      • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 days ago

        Natto is an acquired taste, but regular haggis is just grains with meat and gravy. It’s baseline good, and can be really good if seasoned well.

        Of course you can find horrible versions that are basically just a sack of fat. But you can find bad versions of all food.

    • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 days ago

      I’ve never been to england but I know curry is a big thing there and curry massively outranks every food in the comic

    • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 days ago

      You’re right it’s just that some are more vibrant and contrasting to others. Like for instance if one is living in a jungle there’s just going to be more sources of food than in an area in the arctic or tundra. Like traditional Mongolian cuisine is going to contrast from somewhere tropical like Vietnam or Indonesia. I think that’s the big take away here.

      • FishFace@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 days ago

        Yeah. I don’t think the meme is just about “vibrancy” or “contrast though”. Miku looks depressed in the last panel, and the food is a negative stereotype.

        • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 days ago

          I guess when I’m saying vibrant I also mean in taste. Like certain areas just have more going on food wise and some areas trend more toward brown food, brown taste. Obviously now we have global society so you can find sushi in the Sahara but what the general population generally eats is definitely contrasting in flavors from one region to another. I can say pretty comfortably that Nigerian food is simply more flavorful than kenyan cuisine in most circumstances.

          • FishFace@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            3 days ago

            So some food is more flavourful than others, hence some cuisines will be more flavourful than others. But I don’t actually want every dish I eat to be very flavourful, because that in itself becomes boring. So where it becomes problematic is when people pretend that being less flavourful means being bad or boring, and that being on average less flavourful means always less flavourful.

            Baked beans, even though they’re brown, from a can, and pretty mushy, are packed with flavour: the sauce is made with tomatoes (acid! sugar!), enhanced with vinegar (more acid!) and brown sugar(!) and a load of garlic and onion powder (aromatics!) and pepper (spicy heat!) are dumped in there. Beneath it all is a bit of Worcester (or similar) sauce, which is a fermented fish (salt! umami!) sauce containing more spices. All that in a can of goop that you heat up in the microwave as a student.

            This is lazy stereotyping.

  • Toneswirly@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 days ago

    Beans on toast is just a struggle meal; dont make it your national identity, I implore you.

  • Nautalax@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    Yeah yeah Taco Friday and all but there is great food to be had in Norway, it’s not just the noble potato

    • Err(()).unwrap()@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      52
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Brits made those up so the colonies would give them the spices willingly, out of sheer pity.

      They did fuck all with the spices, but that’s not the point.

      • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        3 days ago

        Traditional British food actually uses a lot of spices, just not usually chilli. British food is full of coriander seed, cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, allspice, aniseed, mace, rosemary, parsley, black pepper, mustard etc. They were originally used because people believed they would preserve meat and extend the shelf life. So recipes from before refrigeration use a lot of it, but also things like Christmas food and desserts use a lot (especially cinnamon, ginger, allspice, nutmeg and cloves). There’s a blend of spices sold in British shops specifically for sweet things called mixed spice similar to pumpkin spice in the states.

        But even if you take spice to mean only hot capsicim Peppers, the hottest curries (phall) are a British recipe. Tabasco is one of the few non British companies to receive The Royal Warrant of Appointment (permission to use the Royal cost of arms on their products) because the Royal Family love Tabasco so much.

        Also Britts drink a lot of ginger. Both alcoholic and non alcoholic ginger beer and ginger wine.

      • skisnow@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        3 days ago

        They did fuck all with the spices

        The British national dish is curry.

        Racism is always rooted in ignorance.

        • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          I was about to say this same fact on another comment above, but then I read the wikipedia article again

          apparently it isn’t like an ‘official’ national dish, I guess it comes from Foreign Secretary Robin Cook referring to it as “a true british national dish” in a speech

          Chicken Tikka Massala is now a true British national dish, not only because it is the most popular, but because it is a perfect illustration of the way Britain absorbs and adapts external influences. Chicken Tikka is an Indian dish. The Massala sauce was added to satisfy the desire of British people to have their meat served in gravy. (full speech) (wikipedia)

        • AmyAye@nord.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          3 days ago

          The Brits are like the OG Big Daddies of spreading bigotry across the world, its ok to give it back, they are severely in bigotry debt.

          • skisnow@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            edit-2
            3 days ago

            Spectacularly missing the point of why bigotry is bad in the first place.

            Telling someone they’re in “bigotry debt” over something that someone they’ve never even met did 200 years ago, and therefore fair game for pig-ignorant abuse, is as close to textbook racism as you can get. You have absolutely zero moral high ground here.

      • FishFace@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        What spice is in every single British savoury recipe?

        Having got three wrong answers in a short space of time, the correct answer is pepper. Now guess where pepper grows…

      • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        3 days ago

        It means something different in America.

        The British one (sausage baked into Yorkshire pudding) is fantastic.

        The American one (a piece of fried bread with an egg in the middle) is pretty sad.

        • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          I have never heard it referred to as toad in a hole, but fried bread with an egg in the middle is pretty good. Just pan fry with a bit of butter and salt appropriately

  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    This is what Japanese people eat for breakfast, it’s basically their version of beans on toast called Natto:

      • OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 days ago

        Tastes kinda like peanut butter though and it’s surprisingly good in sushi rolls where the texture can absorbed by the rice somewhat, especially when there’s some other veg involved too.

      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        It’s definitely slimy but if I had to pick one “chunky snot” texture food it’d be raw oysters. I like oysters and natto both, but I can see how people with texture issues are turned off.

      • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 days ago

        It’s not a very fun meal due to the smell and mess it can make if you’re not careful. The taste isn’t awful but it’s not something I’d go out of my way to eat again.

    • Soulg@ani.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      3 days ago

      Some* Japanese people eat it. Even among them it’s not universal enjoyed.

    • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      I personally love it. Add some soy sauce and mustard, stir until foamy, enjoy.

      I get that some people won’t get over the texture, but people like okra as well so…

      • OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        I get that some people won’t get over the texture, but people like okra as well so…

        Slimey cooked oat porridges too.

  • J92@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    3 days ago

    I’m not a football fan myself, but that did just make me think of this image.

  • originaltnavn@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    47
    ·
    3 days ago

    British food is thoroughly underrated. Who could say no to even a small part of a full english breakfast?

    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Vegans?

      Accepting in advance the downvotes from people who get fucking weird pavlovian style when they see that word in order to give you a straight and obvious answer to your question.

    • Tiresia@slrpnk.net
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      3 days ago

      Animals were brutalized to make half of it, the texture of the tomato is weird, and marmelade is too monotonically bitter for what is available to be combined with.

      Beans on toast are honestly the best part.

      But the real shame is that for an extra 10% of the price it could be so much better by adding spices. A full English isn’t depressing because of its materials but because of its potential.

      It’s fine food, sure, but it is on the low end of dishes that include its ingredients.

      (For the record, I’m Dutch, our “traditional” (read: late 19th century puritan) slop involves doing extra work to be actively hostile to flavor, making a full english seem indulgent).

      • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 days ago

        The animals are the best bit. As for spices, I add curry powder to the beans, tarragon and thyme to the mushrooms, basil and black pepper to the tomato, and then dust the entire dish with chilli flakes. Serve it with homemade Carolina reaper sauce. The Scottish version is objectively better than the English one as it includes haggis and tattie scones. You can also serve it with deep fried cigarettes and buckfast tonic wine.

        • pirc_lover@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          3 days ago

          You can do a very nice vegetarian full English. Veggie sausages and black pudding (I make my own black pudding with black beans which works really well); halloumi is a better bacon imo, and the rest is all vegetarian

            • pirc_lover@feddit.uk
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              3 days ago

              Fair enough. You’d be surprised how good/close some of this stuff can be if you make it yourself when it’s stuff like sausages, black pudding, haggis.

              The hard ones for me are things like lamb shank — can’t replicate the texture or fat marbling in something like a tagine.

          • fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            Look I try to eat vegan and if I find a good replacement I thoroughly enjoy and promote it (there’s some extremely good vegan foie), but sadly all the replacements of black pudding or morcilla I’ve tried have been a disappointment.

            Also, blood is usually a byproduct of the meat industry so the animal didn’t die for that specific ingredient, which in my logic makes it one of the least “evil” non vegetarian products.

            Anyway, please do share your bean based replacement if you want, it’s probably delicious.

        • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 days ago

          My favourite variant is the Welsh, which comes with cockles.

          Not really convinced about adding random spices to the parts, as it’s already plenty salty and quite well balanced. A cafe near me started adding herbs to their mushrooms and that kind of ruined them, as they were really nice just in butter. The chili sauce thing is just depraved though and makes me suspect you may soon start rubbing it on your eyeballs just to feel something.

    • Zyratoxx@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 days ago

      I’d always say no to the black pudding >///<

      the rest is quite OK

      Fish and Chips are pretty nice (especially with a good sauce tatare)

        • Zyratoxx@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          I mean, if I was British and said something nice about the British cuisine wouldn’t that be the Obama awading himself a medal meme?

          Just wanted to make the case that it isn’t completely hopeless, even if the sauce tatare is a bit of cheating I admit xP

  • lime!@feddit.nu
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    3 days ago

    what even is the norwegian one? boiled cabbage and meat? it’s like you guys have never heard of lutefisk