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Jewish person here just would like to remind everyone that in the Torah the first Jewish kingdom was built on genocide and the second kingdom was built on slavery (where the ruling tribe enslaved everyone else including the grand majority of other Jewish people)
These people are idiots even according to their own logic but then again you cant expect internal consistency from reactionaries
(Edit: I found the original source)
(Edit 2: Ironically now hes calling Trump antisemtic and racist, suddenly he has a problem with bigotry)
Thanks for being realistic about the roots of your religion/ethnic identity
Some of these people are completely delusional? Everyone is simply a human being for fucks sake
I wish that one day I could be proud of my people, or at the very least that one day I might not be ashamed to be Jewish. That one day my people may not be guilty of the greatest crimes against humanity.
Did you grow up practicing? Like is your family actively involved or is it more of an ethnicity/heritage thing
Just curious, I’m not Jewish although my step dad was Catholic and I spent a few years of my teens going to mass, I never really fully engaged or believed in it but as I got older I felt it would be dishonest to say I didn’t take away any positive concepts from Catholicism
I understand the feeling of being conflicted as the reality of the issues present in certain parts of human culture become painfully obvious while still longing to feel connected to or proud of certain elements of ourselves
I grew up as an actively practicing religious Orthodox Jew, my family is mostly Orthodox, today im not practicing but the culture and ideas have shaped me fundamentally in ways that I can never unlearn. All I can do is reject reaction to the best of my ability and take the good.
We will fight to fix the world, and teach better lessons to the next generation.
At the end of our fight, we will die, and our flaws will go with us.
the first Jewish kingdom was built on genocide and the second kingdom was built on slavery
Eerily similar to the US
Yeah who do you think inspired the Amerikkkans, the UKKK, and the French?
I never thought that but it fits. Are these the judeo-christian values the ben Shapiro types keep going on about? Lmfao
On a more serious note, are there any books/writing on this? Probably not I’m guessing
I’m not going to turn my brain into a pretzel to follow their illogic bullshit
I’m not going to do the mental work of imagining a people so precious that anthropology is oppression.
Unsurprising they have to appeal to some fake ass sky magic to justify their fake ass country and ramshackle identity
sounds like it’s some master race nonsense
their divinely ordained task is to be exemplary to all of humanity. To be God’s ambassadors on earth, fighting for the good of everyone
Prove it
prove your god exists and gave you this task. Then perhaps I will. Until then this is just nonsense that we could sub out for any other god.To call a jew like anybody else is antiseptic because you filthy goy are beneath us.
A majority of western jews support “israel” and therefore support this ideology. The religion has been corrupted with zionism.
If anyone feels uncomfortable with that statement, you are practicing jewish exceptionalism.
And apparently if you’re a Jewish antizionist, you’re not a real Jew (which I expected to hear from Ben Shapiro, but apparently there’s something in Germany about this?! Like I think it’s the government’s official stance or something?!)
As a Jewish person I wish I could say you’re wrong but sadly no, the grand majority of Jewish people believe in Zionism, genocide, and ethnonationalism.
My partner’s father is an older Jewish long island bloke.
I’d like to say he’s coming around but he really isn’t. zionism has extreme contradictions with his core beliefs, but he ignores them.
He’s an atheist, and he still holds onto zionist principles, and tries to separate the “state” from the “people” which is impossible to do.
Libs, along with many western “leftists” would show no outrage if someone said “supporting trump means you support white supremacy”.
However, if someone says “supporting ‘israel’ means you support jewish supremacy” they will get bashed on the skull by their supposed “allies”.
They both have the same ideologies, yet we cannot compare the two for some reason.
Read him those news articles where it reports things like how the vast majority of Israelis believe forced sex with an acquaintance isn’tremoved. Except read it replacing Israel with one of their enemies. See if he’ll agree they’re an “evil people” at their core, and then reveal the switch.
The antiseptic line makes me uncomfortable.
Jews are the only people based on an assignment
Wait till i tell him about AGAB.
All Girls Are Based
Well not all girls, there are certainly exceptions. For example Margrat Thatcher and JKR.
Margaret Thatcher died which is the most based thing she could do, and Rowling will someday die which is also pretty based
All Genocidaires Are Bastards
They really are going all in on this “try to make the rest of the world as anti-Semitic as possible” thing.
I remember in the 00s antisemitism was literally non-existent and Jews almost held exalted positions in the social pecking order, despite the crimes committed by Israel. Israel really worked overtime to bring it back in force.
Like with every supremacist ideology on some level.
is it offensive to wit God if you’re not Jewish? or is the author Jewish?
In Judaism you’re not supposed to write out the name of God. But “god” is not a name so personally I think it’s some archaic nonsense like celebrating holidays for two days or not turning on electrical things on the sabbath.
same shit when my dad huffs about TAKING THE LORD’S NAME if you say CHRIST when that’s not his fucking name it’s a fucking title
Taking the Lord’s name in vain literally refers to the use of the tetragrammaton. We don’t actually know how to pronounce the tetragrammaton and the commonly given pronunciation is known to be deliberately wrong.
The metaphorical meaning refers to speaking for god, like for example getting extremely huffy about your personal misunderstanding of the third commandment.
Your dad is simultaneously wrong and guilty of the exact thing he thinks he’s mad about.
Tetragrammaton?
I think it’s some archaic nonsense
In my Abrahamic religion?
All I did was say to my wife “that bit of halibut was good enough for Jehovah!”
Also, the screenshot is from The Times of Israel so I’ll let you decide for yourself what the author’s religion is
God told me I’m a special girl who can speak for him, and then he said you should all be worshiping me
And my god could beat up your god so that means you have to do it
Am I the only person confused by wtf is written here? Reads like AI slop
If you don’t think Jews (subtext being Israeli’s) have a special mission to fix the world, you’re being a bigot.
Translation: They’re saying that Jews are the supreme race of humans, as a matter of fact and not out of hatred. They say hatred is bad but Jewish supremacy is… not good or bad, but factual; therefore denial of this “fact” can derive only from bigotry.
If they want me to die and get out of the way they will have to earn it.
Israel really needs a new government, even more than the US… Those in power are insane, and they’re clearly not representative of their entire nationality yet they put their own citizens in a bad light.
Kind of like the prejudice towards general German population after World War 2, which still lives in the minds of some politicians.
Anyway, I’m pretty sure some even crazier lobbyist multi billionaires are behind all of this, and figures like Netanyahu or Trump are probably their puppets.
they’re clearly not representative of their entire nationality yet they put their own citizens in a bad light.
How does anyone still believe this? We’ve seen plenty of support for genocide from the average Israeli, not even going into how many of them openly mock their Palestinian victims.
95% of Israelis agree with the genocide of Palestinian’s or don’t think the government has gone far enough
they’re clearly not representative of their entire nationality
really? Have you like, seen some polls out of Israel showing this? Or is this just meaningless vibes.
Kind of like the prejudice towards general German population after World War 2
I am German and i can say from direct experience that this wasn’t a prejudice, but a justified asessment.
