Some guy will post a picture of a pretty standard looking pepperoni pizza and say: “Imagine not living in new york.” And then there’s the whole bodega discourse, which is also funny. “For you non-new yorkers, let me explain: a bodega is not a corner store. It’s a place where you can buy gatorade, toilet paper, AND eggs.” Thank you sir for explaining that to a slack-jawed yokel such as myself.

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    bodegas are hardly special. like, pretty much every 3rd or 4th street in London, even in the suburbs, has those too. in fact we have loads of specialist ones for different diasporas foods. as do like most British towns and cities, at least regular ones though maybe not afro or South Asian , and I would imagine is true for a lot of other places

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    It’s a place where you can buy gatorade, toilet paper, AND eggs.”

    So… any gas station in the USA?

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    I’ve been to several cities of global importance and size. Moreover, I’ve spoke to people from dozens of countries asking them to compare NYC to the principle city of their country.

    Among them all and from my observation there is agreement: NYC is both the dirtiest major city globally and has the most outdated mass transit system.

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      It continues to blow my mind that New York managed to build one of the first functional metro systems in the world, and then decided that they shouldn’t ever bother to maintain them beyond the absolute bare minimum, for like 80 years. Surely it can’t all be the fault of city planning and Robert Moses, right?

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    I think a lot of the more obnoxious aspects of that discourse comes from transplants who are either trying really hard to be seen as a real and authentic NYer, or grew up in a suburb of a city whose downtown they barely visited, and now see common features of walkable urban cores as unique to New York.

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      I’ve met way too many like this when I lived in Upstate New York. You’d get the transplants who lived in the city and then came back acting like they were above everybody else. The people actually born and raised in New York City almost never brought it up.

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          Confession time? Confession time:

          I used to be someone like her. I’m from a small town in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest but I claimed to be from Chicago (closest major city people give a damn about) only went there once every few years. Basically the stolen valor is about trying to feel like you’re from an important place and to make one seem less “normal”.

          Eventually I grew up when I realized no one really cared either way. Where I grew up does not make me interesting, and there’s a ton of racist people in the “cool” places in California and New York. Conversely, one really cool guy I met in college came from deep red Texas. Accent and everything. He understood where I was coming from but he helped a lot in getting me to just own it. Yeah, I say “ope” and call soda “pop”, that doesn’t make me a “dirty racist normie”

          Yeah, my childhood was kinda boring. But that can’t be helped.

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            This is kind of a tangent but everyone says “ope” I don’t know why the Midwest acts like they’re the only ones. Grew up in florida and heard it, heard it when I lived in Pittsburgh, heard it when I lived in Boston, haven’t heard it with any greater frequency now that I’m in the Midwest myself

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        I’m starting to feel like thats just what happens when people move somewhere. Like something about being a transplant to a city suddenly makes you way more likely to talk about how thats the best city ever and how nowhere else is like it. Kinda like when people convert to a new religion and become really devout to it, compared to people who were born and raised in that religion.

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      What really bugs me is that they brag about their open-mindedness, but call anyone they deem a “dirty redneck” who moves in a gentrifier and thus not welcome in the city as if a good chunk of people living in Brooklyn at any given moment aren’t “small town rednecks” themselves.

      Not that they themselves are the problem, it’s landlords, real estate “investors”, and the “muh property values” types.

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    Anybody who cloaks themselves in the garb of “New Yorker” as their entire personality is a boring ass person. NYC is the best place to live in the United States since it’s the only city where you can actually walk everywhere and that’s why I love it but compared to any other city of similar or larger size it’s embarrassing. We don’t even have fucking glass on our metro platforms. Half of the island of Manhattan is a Disneyworld. A decent chunk of the iconic parts of NYC life have closed and are never coming back because landlords refuse to rent to businesses that aren’t Starbucks or Planet Fitness. The roads are decaying, the parks are grassless wastelands, but fuck I don’t know where else I could get a Tibetan momo, bomb ass al pastor tacos, xiao long bao, and fluffy bagels all on the same block.

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      Really hit the nail on the head, I love this place but it feels like swimming in lake thats slowly drying up. Straight up half the island is the most corporate, ugly garbage, just whole entire areas ceded to Citi Bank and Sweetgreen. Its a shame because it really is one of the only functionally livable places without a car, everyone I know in LA, San Francisco, and Philadelphia has a car.

      Obviously Im biased but I do so resent the amount of people that come out of the woodwork and have to be kind of shitty in New York discourse? Cool, you have a gas station that sells gatorade and eggs, is it owned and run by the same guy for the last decade or is it a Sunoco? Like, I get it, you gotta get your dunks in, but someone on Twitter posts a picture of a cup full of butter they got at a bodega and everyone has to come in with I CAN ALSO BUY BUTTER who cares dude? Just let the NYC chumps pay their exorbitant rent and try to enjoy themselves.

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        Yeah it’s a shame that NYC is pretty much the only place I can live in the United States without owning a car, and I can feel it dying. The outer boroughs still have life, but it’s only a matter of time before my local places are replaced with Dig Inns and Trader Joe’s.

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          Breaks my heart tbh. Everyone with institutional power in this city actively cheers on its death, its terrible. Its got what, ten years left before it just empties out? Its so mismanaged, and its been the only place I can enjoy living since I grew up in a rural/suburban hellhole.

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            Gonna be honest NYC is not going away, it’s just changing. It’s changed several times over the decades. Your NYC is probably going away though, sadly. NYC of the 1940s is totally different from the NYC of the 1970s is totally different from the NYC of the 90s is totally different from the NYC of today.

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    If I have to read one more article about how some people in New York are really cool for doing ordinary culture stuff (like starting a magazine or writing a book) while in New York, I’m going to scream