• AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world
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    Let’s make sure to start the campaign in autumn so we are deep inside Russia during the coldest parts of winter. Let’s also make sure to only take light summer clothing.

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    Oh no the innocent Germans are being forced to become Nazis by other western countries. It’s definitely not because the entire west worked with Nazis after WW2 to “fight communism”.

    The Nazis never left Germany. They just expanded beyond it.

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    I’m sure if it came to it, Canada would send some good folks along as well.

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      We might get a bit busy but I’m sure we can spare one or two war crimes their way.

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      I hope for Canada’s sake and for the sake of NATO and the EU that Canada puts on some big boy pants and boosts its military. I have seen a lot of talk such as yours, but the reality is that Canada’s military is a joke. Canada is so far behind in it’s military spending obligation for NATO that they don’t even have a timeline for catching up. Canada’s airforce is 1/3rd the size of France’s and France is the 10th largest Airforce in the world. The Canadian Army only has 22,000 active troops while the entire Canadian Armed Forces is only around 68,000 strong.

      Canada has had troops on the ground for a lot of global military events, but they’ve almost never fielded a significant number. In the Gulf War they had ~4,500 troops, the Coalition had >950,000 troops and 700,000 of them were from the US. In the War in Afghanistan Canada had ~40,000 troops over 13 years (Operation Enduring Freedom) and at any one point had no more than 2,500 troops deployed. Meanwhile the US had 1.9 million deployed in the same period and at it’s peak had over 100,000 troops deployed at once.

      Oh but we gotta talk about WW1 and WW2 because people always take it there. In WW1 Canada deployed 620,000 troops while the US deployed 4.7 million. In WW2 the Allied Powers had a combined total over over 80 million troops, the US had around 16.5 million while Canada had 1.1 million.

      As an American who likes Canada and doesn’t agree with the current US political direction, I absolutely hope Canada puts it’s money where it’s mouth is. When Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 NATO members were supposed to increase their spending to prepare to stand up to Russia and as of 2021 only 5 of the 31 states had met that goal. As of 2024 only 8 states still had not met the goal, but Canada had the special distinction of being the only member state with no timeline on when they would meet that goal.

      In a Politico article from last year

      “The Canadian public doesn’t really see the need,” said Philippe Lagassé, Barton chair at Canada’s Carleton University. “If forced to choose between defense spending, social programs or reducing taxes, defense would always come last. So there’s no political gain to meeting the pledge.”

      With the US threatening to leave NATO the EU has stepped up with a rearmament plan as recently as this week, let’s hope Canada does the same.

    • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
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      Last time Russia and Germany invaded Poland together. Presumably this would be Germany and Poland invading Russia.

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        You know…as the battlefield becomes ever more automated, there might be a very brief window where the winged hussars could make a comeback.

        Let’s say you have a battlefield riddled with smart drones. They have image recognition and immediately attack anything resembling a tank or other military asset. Do you think anyone bothered to program the drones to seek out and attack a unit outfit like 18th century Polish cavalry? A charge on horseback just might be able to ride completely undisturbed through the right kind of drone-controlled battlefield.

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      No thank you. Defensive alliance, sure. But not attacking. We’re supposed to be the good guys, after all.

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      Germany: “i thought these days would never come again. Fighting russia with poland and france like we did late 1700s and early 1800s”

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          Wouldnt say it was a band. Napoleon forced some of the germans, the others joined because they wanted to be on the winning side, and the poles fought with Bonaparte for their freedom

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            So like a supergroup. Like the Highwaymen.

            🎶"I wore a picklehaube, on the Rhineland I did ride…" 🎶

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              🎵🎶 I spilled the blood of the Saxon men🎶🎵

              I know Charlemagne doesn’t fit the definition of a Supergroup, but that’s simply because when the term was coined, Christopher Lee hadn’t joined any bands yet. So the creators of the term forgot to leave in the loophole that any band with Christopher Lee is also a Supergroup.

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    “the entire western world”

    A bunch of crazy politicians want that. The majority of people in both sides wants peace and would like their money to be spend in useful things and not giant armies.

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      The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too. Britain is basicly united on this as one could see in their last parliament seating where even nigle farage was all in. Turkey also stands with ukraine, island is just minding its own buisness and ireland i honestly have no idea what is going on there. BeNeLux is also on board but have their own problems intern, austria is too buissy sniffing essential oils to care, balkan mostly also against russia even serbia though they play both sides. Hungarian and slovakian leaders are the only once deepthroating russian cock

      • Crazazy [hey hi! :D]@feddit.nl
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        Baltics -> Balkan. Baltics is Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. They are also preparing for the worst though it’s just that Serbia isn’t part of it

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        The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too.

        That’s not true at all, that’s what media makes you believe. You ear macron say something and you believe all french people are down to it. The majority of people don’t want any war, ask your peers irl.

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          We dont want war yes but see clearly that putin musst be stopped and europe needs to remilitarize.

          Russias population as proven in many phone calls that have been publiciced and many interviews with russian people show they support their genocide

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            europe needs to remilitarize.

            Are you aware that EU countries already spend billions on war and that combined they triple russia spending?

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      No, a bunch of people who want Ukraines sovereignty respected want that. I don’t want Germany to invade russia, this person is being hyperbolic. But Germans securing the Ukrainian border is fine.

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      Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war. this problem is not going away until its made to go away.

      I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.

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        Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war. this problem is not going away until its made to go away.

        Following the same logic we should shit on every american because they elected trump. The majority of people don’t want war they get brainwashed and get caught into it.

        I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.

        There are countries with even worst regimes like egypt or saudi arabia. Governments supporting these and waging war against russia are not in good faith. You don’t want to live in any country controlled by authoritarian rulers.

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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      LOL…yeah but the peace on their terms never aligns with the peace of the other side. so fuck russia and burn a tesla.

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          To clarify, it’s the first I’m hearing about the Germans becoming some sort of Deus ex machina against Russia

          I do indeed talk a lot about the goings on with my peers

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      We’ve always had a giant army. It just wasn’t ours and we can’t rely on it any more.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      It’s a bold assumption.

      I work almost entirely on things that use/need the Internet, and I know enough about how it all works that… The Internet existing in the future, is not guaranteed. At all.

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        Fascism was never stamped out. Wall street supported it heavily and now they fully control the us political and military machine. We came full circle. The nazi’s didnt loose the war their ideology infected those with control today. Central banks funded the third reich and those same financial institutions are still empowered and playing a part today. War and genocide / eugenics is a part of their business model.

    • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      AfD is a nazi party. With tied to Blood and Honor, Proud Boys, constantly yelling nazi quotes, nazi saluting in private and small meetings, copying their rethoric and imagin aso

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      I can’t tell if that’s a lucky coincidence or a reference, but the Alternative for Germany (AfD) are the biggest voices in support of fascism in Germany, and they just won 20% of the seats in parliament. Luckily, even the CXU won’t form a coalition with them yet, so they will hopefully not have much impact on things.

      Ironically, the AfD doesn’t want to militarize against Russia (but don’t be too reassured, they do want to reinstate mandatory conscription and militarize generally, just not against daddy Putin)

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      I think the widespread political “unwavering support” for a nation committing Genocide, which is justified by the ethnicity of the people of that nation, kinda shows that some part of Fascism (the whole “people’s race is what matters the most and some races are better than others”) hasn’t at all been stamped out.

      Then there’s AfD which is just taking the “if it’s good to support them because of their race, then it’s good to support us” step closer to Fascism.

      Germany is far closer to a certain philosophy anchored on classifying one’s fellow human being as worthy or unworthy depending on race than one would like to believe (certainly, I liked to believe before the political reaction there to whole Gaza thing made it too obvious to deny) - the symbols were made illegal whilst the spirit lives.

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      The alternative is to not build a giant army and use the money in something more useful that will benefit germans and humanity

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        Yeah the Schreibtischnazis and industrial-nazis never got punished. And not to speak of east germany who employed SS and Gestapo members in their StaSi

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    Yeah, we know, irony is dead. But if the world made sense then the Orange Idiot wouldn’t be in charge.