Gonna be real with you comrade, telling american soldiers to burn in hell here is common place, and will not change. I really don’t think it should either. That said, it is good that you have seen your failures of the past and have moved to the winning side. But this comrade did not lash out at you in particular. It was a general statement, one that is generally accurate, and you took it personally. Your comments have been reported for being imperialist, and while I’m not going to delete them, I think you should. This comrade and others who have been wronged do not owe you forgiveness, or even kindness.
You’ve grown and changed over the years, excellent. But none of us can expect them to forgive you or play nice about it.
I don’t expect forgiveness and I know I don’t deserve it but I don’t like being told I belong in an eternal torture chamber or I should put a gun in my mouth
hey man, nobody likes it, but you also weren’t being told that. It was being said in general. You were not singled out in any way until you placed yourself into the conversation. To be honest, this conversation isn’t about you. Its bigger than you.
That’s not to say you have no place here, or in the revolution. You absolutely do. But some impolite feelings from comrades that have been materially damaged by your actions and america’s as a whole are gonna happen.
i am also an ex evangelical, but because i know that fairy tales don’t exist, i’m not going to get upset when someone uses one to express their anger.
i’m trying to be real delicate with you here, because i think it takes a lot to be an ex-us soldier and turn to communism, but you’ve clearly still got some ingrained kkkracker thoughts that need to be worked out. i’d strongly suggest listening to the people here, reading some more theory (as one of the other comrades mentioned, particularly Fanon) and doing some self-crit. at the very least, disengage when asked, or your account wont be welcomed back.
He said all veterans should burn in hell regardless of the circumstances. I don’t expect to be forgiven and accepted especially by the people I hurt but I think repentant vets deserve a chance and don’t deserve eternal torture
How could I possibly know that? I just take it personally when people tell me to put a gun in my mouth or that I should go to the worst torture chamber imaginable for eternity. Sure as shit not anything I’d wish on a Nazi let alone a fellow traveler with a bad past
Edit: I did a hell of a lot more damage as an ideological conservative in my teens than I did in the navy
Well for one as you know, the us military is a demonic genocidal force that causes mass suffering the world over and holds back human progress. You can also ask the person why they said that to find out instead of reacting with anger at them.
The reason is because they have family in Iraq who are still alive and doing well god willing but were there when america committed genocide against them. I would suggest you apologize profusely without expecting forgiveness.
Even if they didn’t have family in Iraq at the time there is nothing wrong with expressing disdain at a fascist military force. You shouldn’t swear at people who do so. The comment did not personally specifically command you to die or go to hell.
I did a hell of a lot more damage as an ideological conservative in my teens than I did in the navy
Its time to take a break from the internet after you apologize.
Maybe you didn’t read it that way but I did. I know I deserve to die but I don’t think I deserve to put a gun in my mouth or go to eternal hellfire.
I’m not minimizing how bad it was to be at a computer desk supporting what was going on in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2010 but I think a lot of people here are as guilty as I was but refuse to accept responsibility and I try my best to do that
? Did you not read the thread?
Gonna be real with you comrade, telling american soldiers to burn in hell here is common place, and will not change. I really don’t think it should either. That said, it is good that you have seen your failures of the past and have moved to the winning side. But this comrade did not lash out at you in particular. It was a general statement, one that is generally accurate, and you took it personally. Your comments have been reported for being imperialist, and while I’m not going to delete them, I think you should. This comrade and others who have been wronged do not owe you forgiveness, or even kindness.
You’ve grown and changed over the years, excellent. But none of us can expect them to forgive you or play nice about it.
I don’t expect forgiveness and I know I don’t deserve it but I don’t like being told I belong in an eternal torture chamber or I should put a gun in my mouth
hey man, nobody likes it, but you also weren’t being told that. It was being said in general. You were not singled out in any way until you placed yourself into the conversation. To be honest, this conversation isn’t about you. Its bigger than you.
That’s not to say you have no place here, or in the revolution. You absolutely do. But some impolite feelings from comrades that have been materially damaged by your actions and america’s as a whole are gonna happen.
I get that but it doesn’t have to rise to the level of recreational sadism. You could just say I deserve a bullet in the head
i think arguing the intricacies of the difference between death and hell is largely meaningless here, man.
Might not matter to you but to me it does as an ex evangelical
i am also an ex evangelical, but because i know that fairy tales don’t exist, i’m not going to get upset when someone uses one to express their anger.
i’m trying to be real delicate with you here, because i think it takes a lot to be an ex-us soldier and turn to communism, but you’ve clearly still got some ingrained kkkracker thoughts that need to be worked out. i’d strongly suggest listening to the people here, reading some more theory (as one of the other comrades mentioned, particularly Fanon) and doing some self-crit. at the very least, disengage when asked, or your account wont be welcomed back.
Am I being banned?
Did any of this comment refer to you in particular?
Yeah I’m a former navy officer, and I didn’t realize the evil I was involved with till Obama bombed there hospitals in one month
No as in did the comment call you out specifically? As in “I hate u/fannin he should burn in hell etc.”
He said all veterans should burn in hell regardless of the circumstances. I don’t expect to be forgiven and accepted especially by the people I hurt but I think repentant vets deserve a chance and don’t deserve eternal torture
Do you know why he said that?
How could I possibly know that? I just take it personally when people tell me to put a gun in my mouth or that I should go to the worst torture chamber imaginable for eternity. Sure as shit not anything I’d wish on a Nazi let alone a fellow traveler with a bad past
Edit: I did a hell of a lot more damage as an ideological conservative in my teens than I did in the navy
Well for one as you know, the us military is a demonic genocidal force that causes mass suffering the world over and holds back human progress. You can also ask the person why they said that to find out instead of reacting with anger at them.
The reason is because they have family in Iraq who are still alive and doing well god willing but were there when america committed genocide against them. I would suggest you apologize profusely without expecting forgiveness.
Even if they didn’t have family in Iraq at the time there is nothing wrong with expressing disdain at a fascist military force. You shouldn’t swear at people who do so. The comment did not personally specifically command you to die or go to hell.
Its time to take a break from the internet after you apologize.
Maybe you didn’t read it that way but I did. I know I deserve to die but I don’t think I deserve to put a gun in my mouth or go to eternal hellfire.
I’m not minimizing how bad it was to be at a computer desk supporting what was going on in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2010 but I think a lot of people here are as guilty as I was but refuse to accept responsibility and I try my best to do that