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    The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement.

    — Benjamin Franklin, Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress, 1745.

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      Ahhh, dirty old Ben! He knew a thing or two about seduction and sex. And he never let age get in the way of a good time.

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    Hahhaha sugar baby is in for one helluva shock when that gmilf passes and leaves everything to a cat shelter.

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    ngl men dating people their age would be a nice change

    cause the situation now is really hammering home that if men could go lower, they would. 20 was the minimum age in that study.
    Picture of a graph titled "Ages of Partners Men & Women Find Most Attractive". The data for women shows they tend to find people their age (or a bit younger) most attractive, while the data for men shows that no matter their age, they all tend to find partners around 20 most attractive.

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      That chart isn’t of “how low” the men in the study would go, it the age of the women ranked most attractive by the men in the study. Still isn’t great, agreed, but it is talking purely about physical attractiveness.

      Here is the chart from the same study about what age ranges the men in the study said they would find acceptable to date. By 28 years old, 20 is no longer within the field.

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      You just made a lot of assumptions not supported by the science.

      All this shows is physical attraction. When shown pictures of random women to then rate the physical attractiveness of.

      That’s it. Nothing about who these men actually wanted to date. Someone can be very physically attractive to you and you can simultaneously not want to date them.

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      Attractive or actually want to date? I’m guessing porn stars are all around that age, but I have trouble believing the average 40 year old guy wants to date a 20 year old. Or maybe they only quizzed the older guys who like to hang out in bars?

      I’m over 40 and imagine even 10 years younger would be hard to deal with.

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        Wait, you would not date me? Really? What do they got, that I don’t?!?

        (I don’t actually want to date a guy, just jealous)

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      Oof.

      I (a man who doesn’t date me) personally feel like past five or so years in either direction it tends to rapidly fall off. Look weird and hard to relate to.

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        I’ve notived that Yanks are really into this, a meme circulating was that anyone with their age starting with 2 has no business dating anyone with their age starting with 1. Lmao

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      I dated a girl much younger than me and it was ass. Literally couldn’t talk about anything interesting (to me). Dated a way older girl and it was so chill, also best sex I’ve had. Though if I were to choose (let’s be honest, I don’t get much choice) I would pick 1 or 2 years younger than me at most

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        Same! When I was 27 I saw a girl that was 22. After seeing her for two days I just couldn’t take it anymore. She was way too immature for me. It felt like I was dating a kid…

        To be fair I was also very immature at the age of 22. But I really don’t get men who date much younger women.

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        I’ve had sex with women half my age, or less, but for a partner I’ve always loved women my own age, give or take a few years.

        Of course it’s all on a sliding scale. 50 dating 40, meh, close enough. 18 dating 12, aw hell no.

        And then you have Filipinas. Lord. Went to my wife’s friend’s birthday party last summer. She was turning 30. He was about to turn 70. :) We’re the only white/Asian couple of the same age, and my wife is really insecure about it.

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        Think that’s because we don’t really get much of a choice, as the women tend to marry early, and not fuck around too much, leaving us only with the women who…aren’t into anything, or are much younger.

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        Speak for yourself. My acne is finally gone, I look super sophisticated, and they never really wanted my bulging muscles anyways.

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        Yeah, but as you get older people a certain number of years younger than you start looking like legit children. And personally, I feel like a wider range of life experiences (on average) matter more to women than to men.

        But also, this chart is flawed in that we don’t know how many people per age/per gender were asked, how they calculated variation, what the error rate is, or even what the source of the data is. It’s literally just a Microsoft Office chart.

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          I’m not saying I want a relationship with a twenty year old or that women older than that are categorically unattractive, but as far as looks alone go, when I started puberty at 11, I thought women around 20 were the best-looking. When I was 20, I thought women around 20 were the best looking. And now that I’m 40, I still think women around 20 are the best-looking. Maybe I’ll change my mind as I keep getting older but I doubt it. Having to accept this is simply part of having to accept the more general pattern of physical decline produced by aging - I don’t look bad and women my age don’t look bad, but both they and I don’t look as good as we used to.

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            They get more plump around 26, at 20, they have baby face, and are almost bones. At 26, they have a middle build. After that, they get depressed or something, and tend to be less fun. Just my opinion imho. Even if she is attractive, her personality just ruins it.

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            That’s interesting. I think women are most attractive in their late 20s to early 30s. Younger, to me, they still have child-like features. Older, the effects of aging start to take place. As for men, 30s and 40s is where it is.

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        Simply, to me they do not look better than a middle aged person at all. They look young and act young. Which they are, and they should. But as an adult almost old enough to be their parent…they are not attractive at all. Ick.

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        It’s not really that far from the stereotypes

        Women are attracted to things like wealth and stability which generally get better as men age because they want someone who can take care of them

        Men have an unlimited supply of baby making material but women can only do 1 baby per 9 months (and even then depending what year you’re in (say 100,000 years ago up until 200 years ago) the quality of healthcare wasn’t great and child mortality was high) so men prioritise women who are healthier and younger in order to prioritise the chances of a young healthy baby being born and the mother living. Shame on men eh?

        “Advanced maternal age” is a term that describes anyone who is 35 or older and pregnant. This is the age when your chances of pregnancy complications increase. Some of these complications are higher rates of miscarriage and a greater chance of having a baby with a genetic disorder. Advanced maternal age is the newer and preferred name for a geriatric pregnancy.

        https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22438-advanced-maternal-age

        I guess saying that women 35 and over are geriatric was hurting some feelings 😅

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          That sort of evolutionary-biology approach can explain why men are all attracted to women of the same age, but it fails to explain why women aren’t all attracted to men of the same age. Even if women don’t have to be as selective with regard to age because men’s fertility doesn’t decline the way that women’s does, there should still be an absolute ideal age at which a man is most capable of being a good mate.

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            there should still be an absolute ideal age at which a man is most capable of being a good mate.

            There is. Your username. Same for women.

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        GenX dude who peaked around my late 40s, early 50s. At 54, on the downside now. :(

        As to women, loads of the pretty/popular girls went downhill fast after high school and so many of the nerdy girls bloomed.

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    It’s rather amazing how fit and sexy older women can be now days. I was dating hot and heavy around 2019-2022 and was stunned at the women I was pulling at 49 to 51 years old. (Kinda cheating as I have factory original hair and teeth, non-fat, non-MAGA, rather rare in this age group.)

    Dated one beautiful girl that was a diver and swam in the Gulf most days, yes, even in January. Another was a vegan marathon runner. One would turn heads wherever we went, had the personality to go with the looks, could hike until I dropped dead. Good heavens those women were ripped. I’m daily amazed by my 54-yo wife, but she got Asian genes, hardly moves, cheating!