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      That’s a nice positive way of thinking about this. I might be a fuckup but I’ve never charged a woman with a syringe while barking something I got from the internet, that’s a uniquely chud-coded low.

      • Yeah I can’t help but think of how many people failed them at critical points. The reddit/twitter slop phrase of yore “who hurt you?” comes to mind. But on the other hand there’s a conscious decision of channeling the hurt of oneself into the deliberate hurting of others - as opposed to channeling it into removing the likelihood that others experience that same harm - that makes their actions diametrically opposed to my empathy.

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      I half expected when I saw how many replies the thread has for it to be a struggle session about this specifically, SorosFootSoldier tends to accidentally wander into them.

      The critical thing that makes this guy a loser is how he responded to his life’s hardships, not that he has experienced them.

      • Yeah that’s been a learning curve with leftist thought - even people I don’t like didn’t fall out of a coconut tree - they’re responding to systematic failures (or successes I suppose) and manipulation intended to mold them as consumers. But also are choosing their reactions to said influence, which is effectively the only thing one can actually control.

        So kinda six of one seven of the other I suppose

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      I’m glad I’m not the only one, like the guy is a piece of shit but when it’s like “>best friend died” it’s just like, fuck. maybe his friend was keeping him relatively sane since that’s when he started posting his shitty politics? idk. Doesn’t matter but it’s still kinda deeper-sadness to think about

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        There are people in Palestine who have endured everyone they know being murdered by fascists with the whole world doing nothing, and somehow they don’t all become reactionary racist shitheads. There’s no excuse for this

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          They’re not the target of cordinated mass media campaigns designed to weaponize them into reactionary racist shitheads, they’re just the victims of those people because capital sees more utility in simply killing them than in weaponizing them. If we’re being materialist about this, there’s a reason why America produces so many of these people while Palestine does not. This guy chose to be a nazi, yes, but he did not do so under circumstances of his choosing. That shit is in the air here and that’s very much by design.

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            If we’re being truly materialist about this, getting rid of all moralism, violent drunk fascists still should be shot or tackled when they make attacks with syringes at Ilhan Omar. He got the spray off and could have killed her if he wasn’t a fuck up and had something truly toxic. It’s an objective, material failure to allow this person to get away with what he did just from a cold strategic outlook.

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              Absolutely: they need to be removed before they can cause harm, the pipeline that creates more of them needs to be collapsed at it’s entrance, and the conditions that allowed the pipeline to be built in the first place need to be rectified.

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              He got the spray off and could have killed her if he wasn’t a fuck up and had something truly toxic.

              In other words, this was an assassination attempt by a fascist against a political figure. His assassination attempt failed because he is a drunk fuckup, but plenty of assassination attempts against Castro were also failed attempts by equally incompetent gusano fuckups. However, those attempts were taken very seriously by Cuban counterintelligence no matter how unlikely the attempts would actually succeed. I do not see the same sense of urgency and seriousness here.

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              If necessary. If they can be saved, why not? It’s sad to see someone who seems like they can be saved pushed to capitalist induced psychosis and to the point of harming others. Assume such a person isn’t killed in whatever revolutionary movement that happens, and they are now functionally a political prisoner. You just think we should execute them? How fucking grim. They can be given the reeducation and stability they need to recover, and then live pro social and reformed lives. Why wouldn’t you want that for someone? Why wouldn’t it make you sad that they are denied it under the status quo?

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                We’re discussing this in the context that he just made an attack with some unknown substance against the only leftwing politician with any principles at all in the USA. This isn’t some hapless political prisoner from your hypothetical dream world. This is reality where he’s an unhinged racist and fascist who uses violence against women, POC and the left. Self-defense. Her guards should have shot him 3 times in the face when he drew the syringe and lunged towards her.

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                  Okay. One can put down a rabid animal and still pity it for the tragedy it is. Understanding what drove it to harmful behavior and trying to cure and prevent rabies doesn’t mean we don’t put down rabid animals, neither does it make someone counter revolutionary or weak to pity reactionaries driven to psychosis by the material conditions around them. They’re still culpable, and they’re still legitimate targets of self-defensive violence. But they’re also human, and I’d wish for a world where they didn’t have to suffer that way. Shame on me I guess.

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                  Nah. One can still recognize the humanity of people who get the wall. But I framed hypothetical in the way that I did for a reason—dealing with a political prisoner. Does that sound like free speech to you, ya goober? Having sympathy for our enemies and recognizing them as human is in fact part of what differentiates us from fascists after all.

                  This dipshit should be dealt with exactly as harshly as necessary. In the meantime, its perfectly coherent to pity the wretch and the material conditions that made him this way.

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      And there are millions of men out there just like him. Not necessarily the reactionary racist part, but beaten down by life without a social support network in place to guide him out of it. It makes them susceptible to social media algorithms, and this timeline of events suggests that had a role in radicalizing him. Every town in this godforsaken country has a ticking time bomb like him waiting to go off.

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        too bad people read this as a defense of a horrible racist rather than just an expression of empathy for other people which, yeah, these people don’t share, but fuck me for wanting to be better than them and for realizing that I could have very easily been born someone other than myself and whatever fucked to death shit happened to make them that way since people aren’t actually born ontologically evil racists could have happened to me

        like for fuck’s sake people have sympathy for the literal demons in frieren and call it a mark of the show expressing fascist ideology but then turn around and go “no actually, re education is too good for a fascist, we should actually aim to mass murder every ideological opponent” like holy shit

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      I really do feel sadness and pity when I look at the life of any individual fascist like this guy, no one chooses their worldview, we are all conditioned by our experiences. We have choice and willpower but can only make the choices we’ve been conditioned to. We don’t need to have the same hatred they have to fight back and defeat them.

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    I grabbed the text version and I changed he order so oldest is first. Obviously I might have screwed up a couple-few times. Also - I grabbed it off Reddit and it might have already had errors.

    Full text

    2009-05-04 Divorce #1

    2009-06-22 DWI

    2010-07-07 DWI

    2014-11-10 Sued for $11.3k debt

    2017-03-15 Divorce #2. Court filings reveal that he was unemployed and received $39k annual disability. He had no retirement account or plan, his Lexus was stolen, and had over $10k in loan/credit debt to his name.

    2021-08-16 Best friend dies

    2021-10-12 Attempts to troll his local Nextdoor group about Kamala Harris, first political posting

    2021-10-31 Posts political cartoon about Ilhan Omar on Facebook.

    2022-01-12 Purchases Glock 43X

    2022-03-11 First date with Black girlfriend (race relevant later)

    2022-03-20 Last new photo with daughters on Facebook. One has since moved out, other appears to still be involuntarily committed. One calls themselves gender fluid in their Instagram bio, other uses she/they pronouns

    2022-03-24 Last public interaction with girlfriend on Facebook.

    2023-09-21 Does not post again until 9/21/23 Significantly less activity after he returns and the majority of posts are old photos reuploaded.

    2024-01-03 Sued for $1000 debt

    2024-07 (around): Answers questions on Quora pushing election fraud conspiracy, expressing hatred for Democrats, says he feels sick at the thought of Biden winning Asks when descendants of slaves will pay reparations to descendants of Union soldiers for freeing them.

    2024-10-12 Daughter involuntarily committed for mental illness and chemical dependency

    2025-03-21 Daughter’s involuntary commitment extended

    2025-06-22 Creates Twitter account @andysright, first post criticizing Klobuchar

    2025-08-08 Tweets frustration about Black people reproducing

    2025-08-31 More racist tweets–calling Black people negros and evil beasts

    2025-09-11 Makes President Trump his Facebook profile picture

    2025-09-21 Makes President Trump and Erika Kirk his Facebook profile picture

    2025-11-14 Tweets that Black people are reverting to apes

    2025-11-17 Sued for $1200 debt

    2025-12-28 Tweets dismay at lack of Somalis arrested by ICE in Minneapolis

    2025-12-29 Tweets that white people are genetically superior to Blacks. Also tweets further dismay that Black people are reproducing.

    2026-01-08 Tweets about and justifies Renee Good shooting

    2026-01-28 Rushes Ilhan Omar at town hall event

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    Reparations for union soldiers is such a funny one for me. Like fuck it, if it means reparations for the descendants of enslaved peoples we can give descendants of union troops a check too.

    It will make Southerners with Confederate ancestors double losers.

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        By implication, you can see later that they apparently break up and right after that is when he starts going on a bunch of explicitly anti-black racist tirades.

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          so you suggest he became racist after a black girl broke up with him? (or he broke up with her?)

          or is it that he was a racist so they broke up?

          or they broke up for reasons of scheduling? sex was bad? realized they were cousins? some other unavailable information?

          i propose it is racist-sexist to draw a causal conclusion from the presented evidence.

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            I’m not saying it made him racist, I’m saying his chauvinist mindset responded to the breakup by going on those awful racial rants and having more of an explicit ax to grind with black people. I have no idea why they broke up (but also just look at the early info, he was already twice divorced among other things), but he was probably very racist and very sexist before he even met the black girlfriend.

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      Parents are definitely affecting by how their children are doing. They feel guilt, shame and it affects them personally if their kid ends up substance abusing to the point of being committed. Many feel like a failure as a result of it, others will look for someone else to blame.

      I think the timings of posts shows an estrangement too. This is a man who drove everyone away from him and within that isolation he became even more extreme than what drove away the people around him.

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      After he attacked Omar there was the usual scramble where internet chuds attempt to link the attack to left wing causes. The closest thing they were able to find is he has a trans kid, which is somehow supposed to matter.

      • Yeah, not okay, but two points kinda make it relevant. For involuntary commitment the guy was probably a shitty and abusive dad; a lack of support will make psyche problems a lot worse. Kids with pronouns made him lose his shit even more.

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      Being a parent of children with these kind of issues is taxing on a person, and it adds to the story of someone being left behind (both voluntarily or involuntarily) by everyone he cares about.

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        He is not the victim here lmao. Is that really the take away for you? That the black girlfriend shouldn’t have broken up with him and made him racist?

        This kind of man shouldn’t have just been “left behind” he should have been dumped in a mine and the entrance sealed

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          Obviously he’s the guy who tried to kill someone, so he isn’t the victim in that case, but to some extent he is a victim, as is everyone who eventually drinks the coolaid of right-wing mass media propaganda.

          Clearly the guy, while obviously struggling to be a decent human being, wasn’t outright vile initially. I may be reading into it a bit much, but can you not see the story of someone who has been through hardships, that was eventually accepted by a group that took advantage of his desire for being part of something? Obviously he cannot shirk blame or fault for the path he ended up taking, but I could see things playing out quite a bit differently if there were reasonable people he could turn to for help and guidance.

          Don’t spin my words, I’m not saying anyone made him racist, or that the fact that his girlfriend was black had anything to do with how he turned out. He got divorced twice. His best friend died. One of his daughters is institutionalized. His girlfriend left him. That kind of stuff can cause someone to feel like they have no control over their own life, and unfortunately the right is very good at convincing people they have the solution for that.

          I was raised republican, and made the switch to democrat in college, and then again to socialist a while after that. I’ve personally had to help people I know from losing their head and falling for the shit Fox News is shoveling in hard times, so maybe I’m just more likely to assume that there could have been conditions in which this guy didn’t become a racist asshole who tries to kill a congresswoman. I believe very strongly that, if the left showed any semblance of compassion for the normal folks being targeted by the right, there’d be quite a few less people pulled into being extremists.

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            I feel more sorry for Ilhan Omar, his ex-wives, his children, his ex-girlfriend, all the people threatened and hurt by his 10 DUIs. I don’t care about him at all. These aren’t things that passively happened to him. He became a racist troll and drove everyone around him away and destroyed everyones lives along with his own, by his actions. Yeah in a decent society someone wouldn’t have been created, because he would have been kept in check from the very start instead of his racist and misogynist abusive drunk tendencies being enabled perpetually for years.

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            Clearly the guy, while obviously struggling to be a decent human being, wasn’t outright vile initially.

            clarify? evidence?

            that was eventually accepted by a group that took advantage of his desire for being part of something?

            what group was he accepted by? evidence?

            He got divorced twice. His best friend died. One of his daughters is institutionalized. His girlfriend left him. That kind of stuff can cause someone to feel like they have no control over their own life

            That would be a true feeling based on the evidence you supply. Of course! He/you/I/we do not have control over our own lives. We are not gods. Dealing with that is part of humanity! Please tell me who was exempt from this. We cannot all be Henry VIII. Every person whos eyeballs land upon this have had such tragedies befall them.

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    I like that I could have written most of this list the moment I saw the video of him. Going point by point was like playing bingo and him aligning perfectly with the Guy in my head. So many bingos.