32 year old me: “Hahaha, you sweet summer child.”

  • Commiechameleon [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    9 hours ago

    I’m pretty sure it mainly comes down to either youth or hydration or a combination of both. I remember getting absolutely hammered in my 20’s and having the worst hangover so far, but I had been drinking with the explicit purpose of getting fucked the hell up. Still went into work and found ice water and beef jerky to be my go to that day. Gatorade, water, and fattier protein foods would’ve also been a life saver imo. So either they’re well hydrated and didn’t know it or they simply haven’t drank enough jäger, bacardi 151, everclear, and fireball yet…

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      Hydration isn’t actually the biggest factor. When you drink, your liver metabolizes alcohol into acetaldehyde, which is toxic. Hydration helps simply because being more hydrated makes poisons more tolerable, but dehydration isn’t the cause of a hangover.

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        Ah, as I’m reading the thread it seems to be the loss of b vitamins and magnesium as well. And while I can agree to a degree about the role of hydration not being the biggest factor, I’ve yet to get one while drinking and properly hydrating. I’ll add the vitamins to the list of things to do when I decide to get hammered, but it’s gonna probably take a back seat to taking a good 'ol blunt to the face debord-tired

        However, I’d love to know how to rid the body of acetaldehyde? I’m assuming piss more?

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          It’s metabolized in the liver, and oxidizes into acetic acid which is then bound to an enzyme (which is synthesized from vitamin B5, so that’s where the depletion comes in) and further used to metabolize carbs and fats. Drinking water does… something? We’re at the limits of my popsci knowledge at this point lol

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      Hyrdration, and youth, play a big role, but it’s more than that. There are subtances in the alcohol that also contributes to hangovers. Like byproducts of their fermenting, and I think they vary by what you are drinking.

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    i was just talking to my doc yesterday about how hangovers changed wildly between ages 29 and 39+

    i just straight up quit drinking at a certain point. not even like a “i gotta stop this”, just viscerally averse to even wanting a drink. the notion of making mornings more difficult becomes absurd, and i used to have a whole system of hydration and electrolyte replacement. shit like that just breaks down as one ages.

    eventually the only actual tactic is to hook up to an IV in the morning. i know people who do that. healthcare workers with access, obviously. and, frankly, if your recreational drug use has you playing with needles, you can’t pretend like it’s casual anymore.

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    “Sweet summer child” comes from game of thrones and I am sick of hearing it said unironically in public. It makes no sense outside of game of thrones. It is such a Reddit phrase. “Oh but banme actually it shows up-” it has been used in literature about 2 times before game of thrones and neither of those times with the meaning it has in public use and of course not! Because it doesn’t make sense outside of game of thrones.
    Might as well be out here exclaiming Excelsior or Bazinga

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      I feel like it’s perfectly sensible on its own. Summer is childike, you think it’s gonna be warm and bright forever, and winter is harsh reality that you become accustomed to with age. There are plenty more inane phrases that we treat as normal

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          The life can be, and historically has be likened to the seasons of a year. Summer child in that respect is just to say one is young, but necessarily a child (spring), but still early enough in the year that days are long, nights are warm, and everything is generally enjoyable. And GoT is enjoyable media, and people are gonna take bits from it like they’ve been doing since 2000bc and before.

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              Okay, but summer is warm and fun and the days literally last longer. Generally people want the nicer weather to stay around, especially when you’re a kid and don’t have to be in school.

              This is much more justification than many other common phrases have. If it’s still around in like 30 years no one’s gonna care that it’s from Gambo, much like no one now cares about the actual content of gangbusters, just that they can invoke it to suggest success and popularity

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                Okay, but summer is warm and fun and the days literally last longer. Generally people want the nicer weather to stay around, especially when you’re a kid and don’t have to be in school.

                Yeah and winter has snowflakes which are fleeting and delicate and the days are ever so short making them even more fleeting. Spring is usually the season associated with youth. Autumn is harvest time, the time to feel your oats, the time for kids to go out and steal apples and other hijinks. There’s justifications like that for every season to have that phrase.
                You can look on google trends and see how usage of the phrase corresponds exactly with release of either a GoT book or show. When you sit down and actually think about how that phrase has come to mean what it does, it is asinine to insist it’s from anywhere else, when you likewise look at how it shows up in literature and just regular communication. It’s from game of thrones. And I’m allowed to be annoyed at a phrase from a piece of fiction I don’t enjoy having entered popular parlance AND people insisting it’s not from there being annoying to me too. That isn’t some horrendous faux pas, it’s not some massive fault of mine. I find it annoying, it is grating to me. You trying to explain how it isn’t from Game of Thrones, despite the fact it is, doesn’t make it less grating.

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                  Oh I’m sorry I never meant to imply it’s not from the show! It definitely is, I just feel like it stands pretty well on its own even removed from that context

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    I stopped getting hangovers mostly when I started taking a b vitamin (all the B vitamins) before going to bed when I knew i drank too much

    Now i stopped getting hangovers because i don’t drink anymore, THANKS LEGAL THC DRINKS

    But based on the efficacy of b vitamins i think a big component of hangovers is a result of having pissed all of them out

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    In my early 20s I could put away beer like no tomorrow and be at work the next morning. All I’d need was a multivitamin and a big ass bottle of water and I was good.

    Then in my 30s, one or two beers would give me a headache and I’d feel like crap several hours later. Then again at that point I drank maybe once a month, if even that.

    • Yeah I aged out of drinking by the time I hit rehab. I binged for almost 5 or 6 years and had to check myself in, that was the first time. Then in my mid 30’s I relapsed and started drinking again, which lead to rehab 2. By my second stint I was fully over alcohol, I could barely ever keep the stuff down and the next day I wanted to die.

  • 9to5 [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I maybe had 1 single hangover in my life despite me getting blackout drunk a couple of times. That was all during teenage days and my early 20s though.

    I dont really drink like that these days anymore though. I just stop after 2 drinks.

  • CocteauChameleons [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The first time I drank, was when I was 19. I drank like 4 12oz whiteclaws and actually got hella hungover from that. I was never built to be an alcoholic.

    I only take kratom these days and even I get a little hungover from it sometimes despite staying hydrated

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    daily binge drinking helped me stave off hangovers. never took the hair of the dog or got the shakes or anything. I just drank each night like it was my job. first two or three nights can be bad, but after that I could go for 12 drinks