I was at a party where this very handsome guy kept making moves and initiating. It felt so nice to be chosen out of many people, and the chats were good rather than superficial small talk. After a while he asked “my place or yours?” No matter how much my mind was aware that I am not the type of person who can carelessly hook up and I get attached, my heart couldn’t say no in the moment. So we went to his and hooked up. We were also drunk which didn’t help. Full disclosure, he couldn’t get completely hard, and I wonder if it has to do with me but he said it’s probably because he’s drunk. We mutually did other intimate things too, and cuddled afterwards which got me - he was giving compliments and being sweet.

Then it got weird. I couldn’t sleep and woke him up once after which he turned over and at one point said “get out”. He was in and out of sleep with eyes closed, but it was very clearly said. He also claims that he doesn’t remember anything after he hit the bed. So does that mean it’s possible he was dreaming/sleeptalking and it wasn’t directed at me? I accidentally left something small at his place and he added me on social media later on saying he found it. We sent a few flirty messages back and forth across a few days, and he recently asked about my weekend plans but is now ghosting me for the second time.

I just feel old and stupid. I naively thought there could be something this time but they are all the same. I hate that I fell for it and couldn’t control myself. What should I do or say now? We’re in a professional organization (although not a workplace) where word travels fast, my friends all saw us and were so curious, and I really care what our peers think of me. I asked when he was drunk to keep this between us so I’m afraid it didn’t register deeply enough. Should I have a real talk with him, and if so, over food or just a talk in person or over the phone? I feel so lost. Please help me out, friends. Thank you!

  • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    For the “get out” thing, it could be nothing. I think I’ve said some stupid stuff being “woken up” but not actually being conscious. I don’t remember those moments, but I think I can definitely speak and do things without actually being awake. That could be nothing. The ghosting is the real issue. That is a choice. If they’re being rude or choosing to do things that you don’t like, that’s a sign to leave.

    If you really want to give it a shot though and think it’s a misunderstanding, or want to clear things up, or get your possessions back, or whatever, get a coffee or something with them in public. Feel it out in person. You’ve currently lost nothing of value and have nothing to lose really. Just don’t attach more to it than it has. You hooked up with someone. It doesn’t mean they’re in love with you. So far, it sounds like you’ve had no more than a date with them. Just because you had sex, don’t treat it as more than that. You don’t know each other.

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    Being intimate with someone is always a vulnerable experience. Sometimes this vulnerability pays off and sometimes it does not. This encouner may have been fine for portions but overall negative. When something like this happens its best to learn from any mistakes (if there was any) and understand that sometimes we take a risk and it doesn’t work out. You may learn that you hate staying over at someone’s place. There is nothing wrong with doing something that isn’t in your character. You don’t know what is in your character unless you try something different.

    You can try to continue to chat with him but that might not work. He might be embarassed that he couldn’t stay hard or could be million different reasons. At some point you will need to cut your losses and stop responding but that depends on you. We are all human and make mistakes and you should treat someone how you want to be treated.

    My one real piece of advice is if you see him again at your professional organization is to act cool, professional and friendly. Its a sign of real maturity and a good life skill to practice being around people who you might feel awkward around. Also you don’t want someone to take something valuable from you (in this case the org). You shouldn’t feel ashamed for what you did because this is something that happens between two consenting adults. You did nothing wrong and should be ashamed for it

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    I wouldn’t give someone I barely know a second or third chance after being told to get out and then ghosted. If he doesn’t respect you, that’s an absolute dealbreaker, in my opinion.

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      Thank you so much. I agree but is it possible he was dreaming/sleeptalking and it wasn’t directed at me? Because he claims that he doesn’t remember anything after hitting the bed. Should I have a real talk with him? I’m not sure it registered deeply enough that I want to keep this private being that we’re in this professional organization

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        It depends how you feel. Did you feel this self-conscious/doubting/uncertain when you guys were chatting?

        Some people are worth giving your time, but people that ghost you usually aren’t.

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        Why would you give anyone that sense of power over you? Either he’ll blab or won’t.

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    On the part about “get out”, I saw he could have been dreaming or sleeptalking and I wanted to say that too. I’m told I talk in my sleep. Talk is an understatement. I’m told I say extremely hurtful, offensive, vicious things in my sleep, often directed towards people who I have no ill feelings against. I’m talking about cussing, insulting their personality traits, going down deeply psychological analysis of them, using words an phrases that aren’t common (as in rarely used, often intellectual words) screaming, punching and kicking in the air as if I were fighting them, all sorts of stuff very out of character of me.

    I try to warn people about it if I’m planning on sleeping around them but even with a heads up, people usually aren’t prepared for the things I’m told I say. I didn’t even know I did it for a very long time, then after one friend had a serious talk with me about it and I shared the conversation with family members did I learn that it is a very common thing for me to do and I’ve been doing ever since I could first speak.

    Maybe it’s some sort of mental illness or repression or something but for the most part, the people I’m told I scream at when I’m asleep are people I deeply care about and never does my conscious mind ever have these thoughts or an urge to scream at anyone.

    So it could be a red flag that the guy said “get out” but it still could be a sleep talking thing that he doesn’t even know he does. I would bring it up with him directly in a non-confrontational but still serious manner. Ask him if he remembers doing it and what it meant. How he responds should help you decide if he is worth pursuing.

    As for the ghosting, I’ve always used a ‘three strikes and your out’ rule. Things come up, I get it. If they come up a lot, they’re out of my life.

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    Let it go and move on. You have no attachments, continue on at the organization as if nothing happened… be cordial but don’t acknowledge your embarrassment. That’s it. Nothing more needs to come of this, it was a botched one night stand.

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      Thank you so much. Should I have a real talk with him? I always feel like I need closure and I’m not sure if he was sober enough to fully understand that I want to keep this private being that we’re in this professional organization and all my friends saw us chatting

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        If you want to have a conversation with him and he’s willing then by all means. I would advise against sending mixed signals, outline your intentions in the invite. If he isn’t willing to have a conversation, accept it and move on.

        I sincerely think the man’s embarrassed he couldn’t perform and doesn’t know how to remediate the situation, so in his dumb man brain (source: am dumb man) it’s easier to ignore the problem. More than likely nothing against you whatsoever.

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          I appreciate it! I know you’re not dumb because you’ve shared so much wisdom in just a few comments. It’s helped me to feel better about it all

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    Personally I think hookups are supposed to make you depressed, god’s way of forcing you to develop “speed wooing” abilities (which I will explain for $24.99 inquiries at xmpp:shadowbannedfrommcdonalds). They’re almost indistinguishable—to an outsider, that is.

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    Maybe I’m just naive but I personally no matter how little I know a person would “ghost” someone especially if there is some open thread.

    I don’t know the full context of your social situation or how your friends work. But given what little I know I’d just take this a learning experience and move on. I doubt in the long haul it will look bad on you. If anything look poorly on the other person.

    You seem like you care about relationships and people. Someone one better will certainly come along.

    Regardless, best of luck with everything.

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    Firstly, if you have friends or family who know you who you trust with these matters, definitely speak to them and value their opinions over those of internet strangers. As a second option, a therapist is trained and obligated to have your best interests in mind.

    If you’re looking for a relationship, then you deserve someone who is fully into you, not a guy who will hook up and flirt and not much else. The two options are “fuck yes” or “fuck no”, and not something in between. Given the story so far, there’s nothing that really indicates this guy is looking for any kind of real relationship. Even if you want one, you can’t convince him or nudge him into wanting one and worrying about him will ultimately just waste your time, which is valuable even if you don’t think it is.

    Also, his actions are not a reflection on you, they’re a better indication of where he’s at than anything else. People are in all kinds of places in their sexual and romantic lives and those places won’t always make sense or work with where you’re at. I don’t think there’s any value in blaming yourself for hooking up with an attractive guy or for catching feelings – it’s part of who we are as people and it doesn’t make you weak or naive. The fact that you are asking yourself these questions instead of blindly thinking of this guy as your “new boyfriend” shows that, deep down, you can tell that he’s not taking this seriously.

    Be patient with yourself. Find someone who is willing to show that they want to be with you. You’ll get there in time.

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      Thank you so much for your input! Unfortunately, people love to gossip in this org so it’d be high risk and I really find that internet communities give great objective insight. Your comment is an example of that! I needed to hear this: The two options are “fuck yes” or “fuck no”, and not something in between. Powerful. I am exhausted of the in-betweens, the ones who are lukewarm and give half effort and yet expect full effort in return. I’m not getting any younger, and I’m still single when everywhere on social media someone’s getting engaged or married. It gets really hard to stay optimistic and hopeful that something will come around. But I guess that’s what many others are experiencing too. Anyway, from one internet stranger to another (or who knows, some of us may have crossed paths without realizing), I’ll just keep looking for the “fuck yes” and not waste my time with another something in between which should immediately be recognized as a “fuck no”.

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      I agree entirely with this one OP.

      You seem like a wonderful human? Very respectful and supportive and you deserve someone who reflects the respect and courtesy.

      That man did not deserve your attention. Let it go, you deserve better.

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        Thank you so much. This is really kind. I feel like I’m often meeting the wrong people. Emotionally unavailable, entitled, self-absorbed. I hope I can meet someone who fits your description and respects me for who I am, meets me halfway, and genuinely cares.

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    I just feel old and stupid. I naively thought there could be something this time but they are all the same. I hate that I fell for it and couldn’t control myself.

    I mean, what’s past is past. Absolutely no reason to feel bad because of a drunken hook-up. The stringing-along and ghosting seems more like a him problem than a you problem. More likely than not, this guy is just as insecure and flaky as he appears in hindsight.

    It fucking sucks that we’ve got so many lemons in the dating pool. Your story is one I’ve heard a dozen different women of all different ages and experiences reiterate. A guy turns on the charm, you get swept off your feet, then he’s back to business as usual the next day and you realize he’s just a normal POS.

    But we’ve got an urge for companionship, so we all keep putting ourselves out there. The struggle is real. Know that even if you’re lonely, you’re not alone. Lots of people feel this way and nothing you’re doing is bad or wrong, even if it feels frustrating.

    One Night flings are rough precisely because you build a deep bond very quickly with someone who - in the long term - wasn’t going to work out. I’m not going to say “don’t do that” because people are horny and fucking is fun. But you can’t beat yourself up afterwards, because mixing guilt and horniness is miserable and ruins the fun part of fucking. Then you’re just left with this hollow urge divorced from the joy of sex.

    I can say that finding love among friends (at least in my experience) tends to be more fruitful than trying to find friendship among lovers. Dragging someone out on a date a few times isn’t just about counting the encounters before hooking up, it’s about building a list of things you like to do together that you can do when you’re not naked.

    And sometimes just going out and doing things you like to do, and meeting other people who do things you like to do, is the best way to find a long-term companion.

    And if that’s going to parties and clubs - because you plan to keep clubbing straight through your retirement years - that’s great. But if you’re a golfer or a painter or a board game enthusiast or a mall rat, you gotta go find big groups of people doing this kind of thing and date from there. Cause the people you meet at bars are, more often than not, the kind of people who want to be at the bar for the rest of their lives.

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    He treates you badly and now you feel bad. Thats totally normal and okay. Now my suggestion would be to put a stop to this bad treatment of you blocking his private contact and staying professional at your org. That sends a clear enough message