My parents legitimately believe ivermectin is a cure all and are stockpiling it. They take it for just about anything. They also believe plenty of other wacky things like viruses don’t exist and cancer is just a fungal infection.
My dad last year nearly lost his foot after it got infected. They let it fester for months and only treated it with like essential oils or some other pseudoscience. He eventually had to go to the emergency room and stay at the hospital and receive antibiotics. 🙄
And immediately saw the error in his ways? Absolutely not. These people get sick to the point of dying. Go to the emergency room and get healed through real medicine and the efforts of a dozen nurses and a doctor or two. Then they leave and brag to their friends and family “see told you I’d be fine” and never give credit to the REAL medicine that fixed the issue.
Many of my relatives are diehard MAGA. So, when Trump said not to wear masks or quarantine, my aunt and her husband and son went out of their way to basically spend every second they could at superspreader events. They were warned it was dangerous, not restricted in any way, but still felt the need to act out to validate political feelings.
Naturally, they all caught COVID in the early days. My uncle and cousin both passed, leaving my aunt as a devastated shell of a woman. When we would see each other at family dinners she would usually just sit with a far-off, forlorn look. Every once in a while she would tune in for a bit to spout some pro-Trump bullshit. I wanted to scream “He helped to kill your family!”
I decided to just stop spending time with these people before I said something I would regret.
But would you really regret screaming ‘he helped to kill your family’? I think it would be awesome … unless there’s a significant inheritance at stake.
The woman’s mind is broken. She’s a cult victim. If she’s not actively harming OP, why would being cruel help now? She’s already killed her husband, in her mind. She’s fucked already.
The problem is that American politicians are gutting the school system because they WANT more mentally disabled people. “I love the poorly educated” - DJT. People like this lady, who will manslaughter their families for Trump, are spreading his propaganda. I don’t care how sad she is, if she’s spreading his propaganda and telling other people to go through the same tragedy. Someone needs to speak up and stop the cycle of pointless deaths.
Mentally disabled or not, these people are destroying the country. They are hurting lots of other people. They should know better. They have made a choice to be that way and refuse to change even with the brutal consequences made very clear. If they won’t see reason they deserve ridicule.
We don’t say ‘oh the poor Nazis, they were mentally disabled’ - no, we fought them and sacrificed big time to destroy their evil ways.
If that mentally disabled person was killing people? Yeah, I’d yell at them. Other people dying doesn’t mean anything to these people because they don’t care about other people. The only thing they understand is themselves
Good choice. There’s no getting them out of it without professional help. This is an identity cult. They identity is tied to his, that’s why their ego can’t take any hits on him. They explain everything away.
My dad literally will not talk to me because I refused to say that ivermectin is a miracle cure. He’s angry at me for some study or article that he thinks I am obsessed with (I honestly have no idea what he’s talking about), and insists I retract my belief in it or we can’t have a relationship. Since I haven’t the first clue what he’s even on about, he made his choice…
Can’t wait for the next round of crackpot email forwards. Hopefully he sticks to his word and won’t contact me anymore.
Edit - the last time I spoke with him was at my step mom’s funeral, where she had just died of cancer, which they treated with….I’ll give you one guess.
I guess I can somewhat understand his obstinance towards you. If he admits he’s wrong, he also has to admit he had a hand in killing his wife through willful ignorance.
What sucks the most is that ivermectin is a miracle cure! It just isn’t helpful again COVID or Hantavirus. The 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded (in part) for discovering ivermectin.
It’s what frustrates me the most about discussion with people like this. They’re willing to take a random drug, a drug that is fully backed by the medical community, but they’re not willing to take the drug actually recommended by the medical community.
I have a similar experience with my own father after he started using TikTok and Instagram, though it’s not about ivermectin (spoiler: he thinks I’m a “commie”). I think old people are just not equipped to survive on the internet. It’s like they lack the instincts to known when they’re being scammed.
It gives me a tiny bit of hope for the future, because even though gen alpha aren’t exactly the brightest generation so far, they’re at least all fully attuned to the internet and (hopefully) better equipped to navigate its many perils.
I think old people are just not equipped to survive on the internet
I think its people in general
During lock down when people were at home and having to amuse themselves some made bread and did arts and crafts, whilst others ended up jumping off a cliff into conspiracy theories and right wing bollocks
One guy I know of suggested ivermectin and dog dewormers to treat my bf’s cancer because ‘cancer is caused by parasites… there’s plenty of information on the internet… you can do your own research…etc etc’
I used to think the average person was mostly decent and sensible, but not anymore
Idk what the hell happened to baby boomers. When I was growing up my parents (boomers) constantly reminded me you can’t believe everything you read online and that the “girl” I was chatting with on AIM could actually be some fat 40 year old pedo.
That wasn’t uncommon, that was the same experience all my buddies had and same thing was drilled into us at school.
Now, I’m seeing these folks treat memes on Facebook like it’s the gospel truth. Or some random mommy blog post with zero references as straight facts. It’s so maddening … What happened to these people?
At least it’s not shungight. Viral medical trends are problematic when they get sold as cure calls, bad when it’s unfounded, worse when it’s half true. Poisons the well.
I have an uncle who is basically a leftist boomer, but who is into that Art Bell kind of stuff. More recently he’s been getting into the “big pharma is keeping us sick” stuff and it’s really frustrating to see.
My mom died a couple years ago (she thought “vibration therapy” would cure her cancer), and when my sister and I were cleaning up her house to sell it we found so many empty bottles of ivermectin as well as other crazy stuff. It’s just the stupidest scam. Oh, medicine, biology, chemistry, etc is all bullshit, but horse medicine? Yeah, that’s legit.
My mother, a once slightly famous biochemist, died in December from influenza. Tragic that someone who had been a health nut her entire life (other than the 2 pack a day smoking habit she fostered from 11 to somewhere in her 40s) became a complete anti science loon as she got older.
She always believed in new age crap. She was confined that she could see auras and perform psychic healing when l was a kid. She’s the reason that I was dosed with ghastly spinach ‘smoothies’ instead of surgery to relieve the pressure on my brain after a TBI when I was 7.
But it ramped up massively in the information age. No longer relegated to fringe bookstores, her rampant need to be a keeper of the secret teachings was validated by a cadre of charlatans and lunatics online. She became rabidly anti-vaxx, except when forced to so she could travel to southeast Asia… right as lockdown happened in the US. Did she reconsider this ill conceived motion? He’ll no!
She managed her sky high cholesterol with a variety of herbs or whatnot. Same with blood pressure issues. Then had a catastrophic stroke not too long after that covid road tour. Never recovered and very likely was receiving poor care while sick with influenza.
My parents legitimately believe ivermectin is a cure all and are stockpiling it. They take it for just about anything. They also believe plenty of other wacky things like viruses don’t exist and cancer is just a fungal infection.
My dad last year nearly lost his foot after it got infected. They let it fester for months and only treated it with like essential oils or some other pseudoscience. He eventually had to go to the emergency room and stay at the hospital and receive antibiotics. 🙄
And immediately saw the error in his ways? Absolutely not. These people get sick to the point of dying. Go to the emergency room and get healed through real medicine and the efforts of a dozen nurses and a doctor or two. Then they leave and brag to their friends and family “see told you I’d be fine” and never give credit to the REAL medicine that fixed the issue.
“See? Told you I’d be fine.”
“Dad, you need to take off your leg to go through airport security.”
Airplane!_MetalDetectorScene.MP4
Many of my relatives are diehard MAGA. So, when Trump said not to wear masks or quarantine, my aunt and her husband and son went out of their way to basically spend every second they could at superspreader events. They were warned it was dangerous, not restricted in any way, but still felt the need to act out to validate political feelings.
Naturally, they all caught COVID in the early days. My uncle and cousin both passed, leaving my aunt as a devastated shell of a woman. When we would see each other at family dinners she would usually just sit with a far-off, forlorn look. Every once in a while she would tune in for a bit to spout some pro-Trump bullshit. I wanted to scream “He helped to kill your family!”
I decided to just stop spending time with these people before I said something I would regret.
But would you really regret screaming ‘he helped to kill your family’? I think it would be awesome … unless there’s a significant inheritance at stake.
The woman’s mind is broken. She’s a cult victim. If she’s not actively harming OP, why would being cruel help now? She’s already killed her husband, in her mind. She’s fucked already.
Are you sure? Sounded like she might still be in denial.
I’m a bit baffled by the upvotes on this.
I get it, I’m also furious at the MAGA crowd, but, considering this actually happened, I just feel sorry for that woman.
Losing your family must be horrible either way and if that doesn’t make her reflect, do you think yelling at her will?
You wouldn’t yell at a mentally disabled person, I hope, that’s basically who you’re dealing with.
The problem is that American politicians are gutting the school system because they WANT more mentally disabled people. “I love the poorly educated” - DJT. People like this lady, who will manslaughter their families for Trump, are spreading his propaganda. I don’t care how sad she is, if she’s spreading his propaganda and telling other people to go through the same tragedy. Someone needs to speak up and stop the cycle of pointless deaths.
We’re mad and MAGAts deserve much worse than losing their husband and child.
Mentally disabled or not, these people are destroying the country. They are hurting lots of other people. They should know better. They have made a choice to be that way and refuse to change even with the brutal consequences made very clear. If they won’t see reason they deserve ridicule.
We don’t say ‘oh the poor Nazis, they were mentally disabled’ - no, we fought them and sacrificed big time to destroy their evil ways.
If that mentally disabled person was killing people? Yeah, I’d yell at them. Other people dying doesn’t mean anything to these people because they don’t care about other people. The only thing they understand is themselves
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Thx mate. Deleted the clone. Or did I??!?!?
Good choice. There’s no getting them out of it without professional help. This is an identity cult. They identity is tied to his, that’s why their ego can’t take any hits on him. They explain everything away.
“Hey Marge, how’s the husband and son? Still dead? Still Trump’s fault?”
My dad literally will not talk to me because I refused to say that ivermectin is a miracle cure. He’s angry at me for some study or article that he thinks I am obsessed with (I honestly have no idea what he’s talking about), and insists I retract my belief in it or we can’t have a relationship. Since I haven’t the first clue what he’s even on about, he made his choice…
Can’t wait for the next round of crackpot email forwards. Hopefully he sticks to his word and won’t contact me anymore.
Edit - the last time I spoke with him was at my step mom’s funeral, where she had just died of cancer, which they treated with….I’ll give you one guess.
We aren’t dealing with rational people.
I guess I can somewhat understand his obstinance towards you. If he admits he’s wrong, he also has to admit he had a hand in killing his wife through willful ignorance.
Truth hurts.
Well at least she died free of worms.
What sucks the most is that ivermectin is a miracle cure! It just isn’t helpful again COVID or Hantavirus. The 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded (in part) for discovering ivermectin.
It’s what frustrates me the most about discussion with people like this. They’re willing to take a random drug, a drug that is fully backed by the medical community, but they’re not willing to take the drug actually recommended by the medical community.
This is my favorite anti-anti-vax argument. You won’t take one medicine, here have another with the same medical backing 😂
I have a similar experience with my own father after he started using TikTok and Instagram, though it’s not about ivermectin (spoiler: he thinks I’m a “commie”). I think old people are just not equipped to survive on the internet. It’s like they lack the instincts to known when they’re being scammed.
It gives me a tiny bit of hope for the future, because even though gen alpha aren’t exactly the brightest generation so far, they’re at least all fully attuned to the internet and (hopefully) better equipped to navigate its many perils.
I think its people in general
During lock down when people were at home and having to amuse themselves some made bread and did arts and crafts, whilst others ended up jumping off a cliff into conspiracy theories and right wing bollocks
One guy I know of suggested ivermectin and dog dewormers to treat my bf’s cancer because ‘cancer is caused by parasites… there’s plenty of information on the internet… you can do your own research…etc etc’
I used to think the average person was mostly decent and sensible, but not anymore
Never underestimate the strength of small town loyalty, where obviously everyone knows better than a century-spanning corpus of medical research
Idk what the hell happened to baby boomers. When I was growing up my parents (boomers) constantly reminded me you can’t believe everything you read online and that the “girl” I was chatting with on AIM could actually be some fat 40 year old pedo.
That wasn’t uncommon, that was the same experience all my buddies had and same thing was drilled into us at school.
Now, I’m seeing these folks treat memes on Facebook like it’s the gospel truth. Or some random mommy blog post with zero references as straight facts. It’s so maddening … What happened to these people?
I’m also not talking to your father on behalf of you
There’s no getting them out of it without several things, namely their consent and will to change and professional deprogramming.
Send him Epstein files in return.
At least it’s not shungight. Viral medical trends are problematic when they get sold as cure calls, bad when it’s unfounded, worse when it’s half true. Poisons the well.
I guess I’m glad my father is only “ancient aliens” crazy after his TBI made him a trump supporter.
I guess I should be glad my TBI just made me super socially awkward and obsessive about weird niche topics.
I have an uncle who is basically a leftist boomer, but who is into that Art Bell kind of stuff. More recently he’s been getting into the “big pharma is keeping us sick” stuff and it’s really frustrating to see.
Damn, like Fetterman. Sorry that happened to your dad.
Fetterman was an asshole before he was on the national stage.
Same with my dad, although he was a fiscal conservative before just because he’s a financial advisor and Republicans are good for business.
Yeah that’s the song and dance
My mom died a couple years ago (she thought “vibration therapy” would cure her cancer), and when my sister and I were cleaning up her house to sell it we found so many empty bottles of ivermectin as well as other crazy stuff. It’s just the stupidest scam. Oh, medicine, biology, chemistry, etc is all bullshit, but horse medicine? Yeah, that’s legit.
My mother, a once slightly famous biochemist, died in December from influenza. Tragic that someone who had been a health nut her entire life (other than the 2 pack a day smoking habit she fostered from 11 to somewhere in her 40s) became a complete anti science loon as she got older.
She always believed in new age crap. She was confined that she could see auras and perform psychic healing when l was a kid. She’s the reason that I was dosed with ghastly spinach ‘smoothies’ instead of surgery to relieve the pressure on my brain after a TBI when I was 7.
But it ramped up massively in the information age. No longer relegated to fringe bookstores, her rampant need to be a keeper of the secret teachings was validated by a cadre of charlatans and lunatics online. She became rabidly anti-vaxx, except when forced to so she could travel to southeast Asia… right as lockdown happened in the US. Did she reconsider this ill conceived motion? He’ll no!
She managed her sky high cholesterol with a variety of herbs or whatnot. Same with blood pressure issues. Then had a catastrophic stroke not too long after that covid road tour. Never recovered and very likely was receiving poor care while sick with influenza.
What an incredibly stupid end.
It’s way too common of a story, sorry you had to deal with it too.
She was a cold, brittle narcissist. I went no contact a LONG time ago.
But thank you :)
At least your parents are free from intestinal parasites
Well at least they don’t have worm parasites.
It does work well for those things.
Start sending them articles about Steve Jobs and how he died.
Yeah but not a worm in sight!