• justtobbi@feddit.org
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    4 hours ago

    As a german its so crazy to me, that so many people still use gas. Especially with their cheap (although fossil) gas prices. Good for californians to finally get electric appliances and induction stoves :))

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      For me the main benefit is the ability to still feed yourself if the power goes out for any length of time, and heat your house if it’s in winter.

      Otherwise you are eating cold canned beans and freezing. Power goes out fairly frequently at my place. We could electrify and install a backup generator but then you are still using gas just a different kind.

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        That seems like a clear and obvious niche scenario. The majority of the US does not have frequent power outages and the majority of the US would be wiser to go to Solar (or wind locally) than get a backup generator (and that only gets more true every year). I only say this because I wish people creating minor social friction to the movement, like your comment, would remove that friction with a small “I know this is a niche scenario but…”

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        Yep. I’m in an apartment with all electric now, but the city had a massive snow storm and power outage that lasted a week 3-4 years ago. 30-40 people died. The roads were so bad it was illegal to try and drive (travel ban) so a lot of people ended up freezing to death. I’m fortunate enough to have both a 23000 btu kerosene heater for emergencies and do a lot of camping so butane stove canisters for days, but all electric still has its downsides.

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    18 hours ago

    They may save more than that in medical costs over the coming years - gas ranges are quite bad for your lungs.

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        So, one of several reasons America didn’t really adopt induction cooktops en masse until recently has been cookware. There were like 50 years there of trendy cookware, none of which is suitable for induction stoves. Just off the top of my head, you had:

        • Pyrex, Borosilicate glass
        • Corningware, ceramic
        • Revereware, stainless steel
        • Calphalon, anodized aluminum
        • Various brands of solid copper pans
        • Various brands of teflon-coated steel
        • Weird gimmicky allegedly nonstick shit

        It’s only been within the last couple decades that most off the shelf cookware has had an iron plate bonded to the bottom to make them induction compatible regardless of their interior surfaces. This, along with the consistently low price of natural gas in the United States, has kept gas stoves relevant.

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        When I got an induction range, my nice All-Clad brand pots didn’t work because they were mostly aluminum. That’s not a cheap brand either.

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          That sucks but I just got an induction and it is by far the best stove I’ve ever had. I can’t believe people like gas to it’s such garbage

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            Even a crappy Gas range is infinitely better than the shitty electric coil ranges. And that’s what 99.9% of people have to compare. Most people have never used an induction range before.

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              Yeah, my partner’s mother has a professional grade gas range/ovens in her home kitchen, so he was wanting gas until I introduced him to induction. Now he’s turned into an induction evangelist, haha.

              I found out about induction because I got a soup pot back in the early 2000s that was marked on the bottom as induction capable, so I looked up wtf that meant, and wanted one ever since. My induction range came with a convection oven, which I’ve also wanted for forever, and that has an air fryer mode.

              I only give it an 8/10 tho because it has touch buttons instead of knobs, so it doesn’t always recognize my finger, but a drip of sauce will sometimes trigger it. Next time I’ll find one with knobs.

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                Mine also has the convection oven with air fryer mode but I don’t think it works all that great. That or air fryers aren’t that great. I dunno, it’s my only experience with air fryers

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                  Oh, dang. This is also my only experience with air fryers, but mine works great. Never had crispier potatoes come out of my oven before.

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              I would still rather have a shitty coil one than use gas. Maybe if we had some regulations that required proper ventilation with gas stoves I’d feel better but that only seems to be the case in smart states like California