Well, there have been studies that have shown that a little more than 25% of college aged men had committed sexual assault. So I’m guessing at least one in four, probably a little higher considering how crazy and criminally inclined most of them are.
Maybe this; I quote (I’m assuming I don’t need to CW given the whole thread is but I’ll edit if I’m wrong):
Computer-assisted self-interviews were completed with a random sample of 163 unmarried Caucasian and African American men in a large metropolitan area. Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completedremoved; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion
Then again it might be this (depressing I found two candidate studies immediately with a single shitty search):
In college and community samples, rates of self-reportedremoved perpetration range from 6% to 15%, and rates of sexual assault perpetration range from 22% to 57%
I didn’t look at either in depth / their methodology; but I wouldn’t be surprised. I am a man and I can count on the fingers of a single hand the amount of men I’ve known in my life that didn’t feel comfortable saying objectifying stuff about women when there were none around.
. I am a man and I can count on the fingers of a single hand the amount of men I’ve known in my life that didn’t feel comfortable saying objectifying stuff about women when there were none around
So true and honestly why i never found myself on the #notallmen train because it felt like it was all men but me
notallmen train because it felt like it was all men but me
That’s why I quit teamed sports and having male friends. Have you also been diagnosed with high functioning autism? I think it helps insulate my brain from the gender identity crisis most dudes have gone through recently. Like a thin reflective mylar blanket my autism protects my mind from the joe rogan brain disease particles.
I actually consistently score the lowest of anyone i’ve ever met, including ‘neurotypicals,’ on all publicly available autism and masking tests. I’ve never thought that I’m not a guy but I have felt like I wasn’t meant to live on this planet, certainly.
Yeah… I don’t blame you. I’m a pretty traditionally masc dude and I don’t have any male friends anymore. The fucking manosphere bullshit has really made dudes loose what little sense of reality they still possessed. I think having a little more than a touch of the ism might have made me immune?
My last and longest held male friend ended up transitioning, so now I primarily hang with trans people and a bunch of lesbians from my job.
I totally get it. There’s one (somewhat gender non-conforming) man in my close friend group. There used to be another, but they came out as genderfluid non-binary. I think even if cis men (or people with strong life long privilege because of how they are perceived as men within patriarchy) reject patriarchy, they still have a responsibility to put work into relationships with other cis men. Even if it’s easier to just hang with non-male friends. Someone has to do the work of educating them and why should the main victims of patriarchy have to do it instead of the ones who suffer least from it and benefit the most? Also, I knew multiple cis men (no longer friends), who strongly preferred friendships with women because they enjoyed how their female friends actually had taken time to learn the social skills necessary for a good friendship (like talking about emotions). They let them do all this emotional labor, without ever putting anything in themselves. And without ever trying to change what male friendships could mean. They had male friendships, but would only really open up and be vulnerable to women. If men isolate themselves from other men, men won’t change. They need to take a risk and be vulnerable with other men.
they still have a responsibility to put work into relationships with other cis men. Even if it’s easier to just hang with non-male friends. Someone has to do the work of educating them and why should the main victims of patriarchy have to do it instead of the ones who suffer least from it and benefit the most?
I’ve definitely done my best to educate other cis men, ends up they typically really don’t like that. I’m getting old enough where I just don’t know very many young men, and a lot of my previous cis men friends my age just became self destructive at some point and went no contact or have killed themselves.
They let them do all this emotional labor, without ever putting anything in themselves. And without ever trying to change what male friendships could mean
Yeah, that is my experience with most relationships with my fellow cis male counterparts. Like, I can only talk about sports or videogames for so long before I start not feeling like a real person anymore. I never really understood friendships where it was taboo to talk about your experience with the human condition.
If men isolate themselves from other men, men won’t change.
I’ve kinda lost faith that this will happen anytime soon. Anytime I try to talk with other men about real emotions and life they either retreat from engagement, or end up being gender fluid.
(Koss et al., 1987; Koss, Heise, & Russo, 1994). In college and community samples, rates of self-reported rape perpetration range from 6% to 15%, and rates of sexual assault perpetration range from 22% to 57% (Abbey et al., 1998; Calhoun, Bernat, Clum, & Frame, 1997; Koss et al., 1987; Muehlenhard & Linton, 1987; Rapaport & Burkhart, 1984; Senn, Desmarais, Verberg, & Wood, 2000).
Calhoun et al. [1997] surveyed 65 young men in a rural community in Georgia who had recently participated in a study of school-aged youth. The average age of participants was 19 and most were Caucasian. Twenty-two percent of these men (n = 14) had perpetrated some type of sexual assault based on their answers to a modified version of the SES; 6.4% had committed an act that met standard legal definitions of completed rape
Senn et al. [2000] surveyed a representative sample of 195 men in a small Canadian city. Participants ranged in age from 19 to 82 and most were Caucasian. Using a modified version of the SES, 27% of participants reported committing some type of sexual assault; 7.7% reported committing attempted or completed rape. M
One large noncollege study was conducted with a special population. Merrill et al. [2001] surveyed 7,850 male US navy recruits from three different locations. These men were on average 20 years of age and approximately two-thirds were Caucasian. Using a shortened form of the SES, approximately 11% of these men reported that they had committed an act that met standard legal definitions of rape.
So yeah, there’s quite a few different studies…all of them paint a pretty dark picture. They are self reported, so the number could potentially be even higher.
Yeah… Definitely not a good thing. I’m a pretty masc dude who’s always gotten along better with women. I played football in school and the way those guys talked about women made me quit teamed sports.
My best friend from highschool was the only dude I ever really got close too and they ended up transitioning about 5 years ago, we are still besties.
I don’t really know if anyone in the last 5 years could even get funding to do that kind of study. Schools kinda started to lock down that kind of research about a decade ago. The studies I was thinking of were from the 00s, back when schools first really started to pretend to care about women.
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I mean you gotta admit it doesn’t sound disqualifying when you look at the other people Americans vote for
Hold on I have a great image.
I wonder what percentage of congressmen are rapist
Well, there have been studies that have shown that a little more than 25% of college aged men had committed sexual assault. So I’m guessing at least one in four, probably a little higher considering how crazy and criminally inclined most of them are.
I would like to see where you’re getting this number
Maybe this; I quote (I’m assuming I don’t need to CW given the whole thread is but I’ll edit if I’m wrong):
Computer-assisted self-interviews were completed with a random sample of 163 unmarried Caucasian and African American men in a large metropolitan area. Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completedremoved; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion
Then again it might be this (depressing I found two candidate studies immediately with a single shitty search):
In college and community samples, rates of self-reportedremoved perpetration range from 6% to 15%, and rates of sexual assault perpetration range from 22% to 57%
I didn’t look at either in depth / their methodology; but I wouldn’t be surprised. I am a man and I can count on the fingers of a single hand the amount of men I’ve known in my life that didn’t feel comfortable saying objectifying stuff about women when there were none around.
So true and honestly why i never found myself on the #notallmen train because it felt like it was all men but me
That’s why I quit teamed sports and having male friends. Have you also been diagnosed with high functioning autism? I think it helps insulate my brain from the gender identity crisis most dudes have gone through recently. Like a thin reflective mylar blanket my autism protects my mind from the joe rogan brain disease particles.
I actually consistently score the lowest of anyone i’ve ever met, including ‘neurotypicals,’ on all publicly available autism and masking tests. I’ve never thought that I’m not a guy but I have felt like I wasn’t meant to live on this planet, certainly.
Thanks for the source
One of the reasons I plan to stay the fuck away from men.
Yeah… I don’t blame you. I’m a pretty traditionally masc dude and I don’t have any male friends anymore. The fucking manosphere bullshit has really made dudes loose what little sense of reality they still possessed. I think having a little more than a touch of the ism might have made me immune?
My last and longest held male friend ended up transitioning, so now I primarily hang with trans people and a bunch of lesbians from my job.
I totally get it. There’s one (somewhat gender non-conforming) man in my close friend group. There used to be another, but they came out as genderfluid non-binary. I think even if cis men (or people with strong life long privilege because of how they are perceived as men within patriarchy) reject patriarchy, they still have a responsibility to put work into relationships with other cis men. Even if it’s easier to just hang with non-male friends. Someone has to do the work of educating them and why should the main victims of patriarchy have to do it instead of the ones who suffer least from it and benefit the most? Also, I knew multiple cis men (no longer friends), who strongly preferred friendships with women because they enjoyed how their female friends actually had taken time to learn the social skills necessary for a good friendship (like talking about emotions). They let them do all this emotional labor, without ever putting anything in themselves. And without ever trying to change what male friendships could mean. They had male friendships, but would only really open up and be vulnerable to women. If men isolate themselves from other men, men won’t change. They need to take a risk and be vulnerable with other men.
I’ve definitely done my best to educate other cis men, ends up they typically really don’t like that. I’m getting old enough where I just don’t know very many young men, and a lot of my previous cis men friends my age just became self destructive at some point and went no contact or have killed themselves.
Yeah, that is my experience with most relationships with my fellow cis male counterparts. Like, I can only talk about sports or videogames for so long before I start not feeling like a real person anymore. I never really understood friendships where it was taboo to talk about your experience with the human condition.
I’ve kinda lost faith that this will happen anytime soon. Anytime I try to talk with other men about real emotions and life they either retreat from engagement, or end up being gender fluid.
Definitely a good idea, sadly
Thanks for posting, I got busy at work. You are correct, congratulations! Your prize is the burden of knowledge concerning our fellow man.
There were a couple more, but those were the main two I was remembering off the top of my head.
Source
So yeah, there’s quite a few different studies…all of them paint a pretty dark picture. They are self reported, so the number could potentially be even higher.
Jfc is the number really that high?
oh it’s almost certainly much higher
That would be my initial guess, one of the studies i was talking about was as high as 57%.
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Unfortunately it may very well be higher.
Are you deadass?
Yeah… Definitely not a good thing. I’m a pretty masc dude who’s always gotten along better with women. I played football in school and the way those guys talked about women made me quit teamed sports.
My best friend from highschool was the only dude I ever really got close too and they ended up transitioning about 5 years ago, we are still besties.
In the last 5 years?
I don’t really know if anyone in the last 5 years could even get funding to do that kind of study. Schools kinda started to lock down that kind of research about a decade ago. The studies I was thinking of were from the 00s, back when schools first really started to pretend to care about women.
Sorry, I meant if they’ve done that in the last 5 years
Judging by the ages in the study the assaults had probably happened more recently, like in the last 2-3 years.
Isn’t this how US electoral system works? Person with the majority of credible SA allegations wins?
I wouldn’t be surprised
As the founders intended
No they also intended to enslave the resulting offspring
nazism and zionism are the two poles of the american political establishment
Naziism: Jews don’t belong in America (threatening, genocidal)
Zionism: Jews don’t belong in America (hopeful, messianic)
Op is skeptical becauseremoveds and nazi tattoos are classic lib shit.