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    furiously scribbling notes

    “Okay, so like they’ll still vote for you if you’re a former mercenary, but what if you had a Nazi tattoo?”

    “Alright what if you had a rape allegation but it came from across the political isle”

    “Okay, okay, now let’s say you’re a concentration camp guard…”

    “Woah, I honestly didn’t think that was gonna work. Alright this time you have a rape allegation and she believes in your platform and still thinks she should vote for you. That one doesn’t fly huh?”

    “Win? Who cares about winning, this is gold, man!”

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    Apparently a lot of people (or bots, who knows these days) are saying its a smear campaign and the accuser is unreliable.

    Or maybe the guy with nazi tattoos and a history in the modern SS is aremoved?

    Smh my opponents are smearing me by pointing out things Ive said and done.

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      I was just told I’m being played by Chuck Schumer, who has evidently tricked me into thinking Nazi tattoos, Blackwater mercenaries, and SA are all bad.

      At this point I primarily want him gone just so I never have to hear anyone describe a totenkopf as “a pirate tattoo” hopefully ever again. Though now some of them have just switched over to the standard talking points to discredit SA.

      These are the same people accusing us of being blindly loyal to Russia and China and rejecting any criticism or inconvenient facts, like in the same breath they’ll excuse all this fucked up shit about their guy and then complain about “tankies.”

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      Even if he didn’t know what it was he probably had to seek out an artist willing to do a Nazi tat. Maybe I only hang out with cool people but the tattoo artists I know would refuse to do any Nazi shit & tend to recognize fascist symbols

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        There’s a tourist tattoo parlor near me that does viking runes where they’ve ascribed a meaning to each rune (which is funny because the runes are just an alphabet, they’re not like kanji). They’ve got the odal rune there, no warning about it being a nazi symbol lol. I doubt they’re aware.

        So maybe he just found a really dumb tattooist.

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      He was always going to be a dumb fuck even if he was lying, whether it’s because he didn’t know what the tattoo was or because he chose to run as a self-proclaimed “socialist” with a Nazi tattoo.

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        I didn’t know about the symbol, but I wasn’t as politically aware when I learned about it. But I have learned that Nazi symbols are fairly popular among US military members. It seems unlikely to me that he would not have known, but I certainly didn’t until I looked it up. (which I would have done before getting it permanently drawn on my body)

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          There is simply no fucking way he didn’t know by the time he ran. I could sort of buy that he may not have known when he got it (although I would also expect most artists to be aware of common Nazi symbols and make a call over whether or not they want a Nazi clientele - I doubt the tattoo parlour made the totemkopf available but not swastikas and sieg runes, so even that is doubtful), but there is seriously no way he didn’t find out in the intervening what, 18 years? between getting it and being caught.

          Edit: there’s also the slight problem of his Reddit history where he talked about being annoyed when soldiers get their “bolts” (SS lightning bolt tattoos) without “earning them”, because he views getting a Nazi tattoo as an honour that should be earned.

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    I’m scared of becoming a public figure because of some dumb drunk Facebook posts I made 15 years ago. I don’t get how these guys who have more skeletons in the closet than Pol Pot keep thinking it’s a good idea to go into the lime light.

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      The kind of mindset and personality that thinks it’s okay to do crimes and war crimes, then brag about it online, is also the same kind of person that believes they have all the answers and should be in charge of telling people what to do.

      Under communism, everyone given power must immediately relinquish and denounce it until they are assigned power by the people’s committee and are forced to do the job, a-la Stalin. Anyone who volunteers to be in charge of something will be immediately executed

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      So blessed I didn’t use social media as a child. Granted I could still never do establishment politics bc of this website but wtv.

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        Well, there have been studies that have shown that a little more than 25% of college aged men had committed sexual assault. So I’m guessing at least one in four, probably a little higher considering how crazy and criminally inclined most of them are.

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            (Koss et al., 1987; Koss, Heise, & Russo, 1994). In college and community samples, rates of self-reported rape perpetration range from 6% to 15%, and rates of sexual assault perpetration range from 22% to 57% (Abbey et al., 1998; Calhoun, Bernat, Clum, & Frame, 1997; Koss et al., 1987; Muehlenhard & Linton, 1987; Rapaport & Burkhart, 1984; Senn, Desmarais, Verberg, & Wood, 2000).

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            Calhoun et al. [1997] surveyed 65 young men in a rural community in Georgia who had recently participated in a study of school-aged youth. The average age of participants was 19 and most were Caucasian. Twenty-two percent of these men (n = 14) had perpetrated some type of sexual assault based on their answers to a modified version of the SES; 6.4% had committed an act that met standard legal definitions of completed rape

            Senn et al. [2000] surveyed a representative sample of 195 men in a small Canadian city. Participants ranged in age from 19 to 82 and most were Caucasian. Using a modified version of the SES, 27% of participants reported committing some type of sexual assault; 7.7% reported committing attempted or completed rape. M

            One large noncollege study was conducted with a special population. Merrill et al. [2001] surveyed 7,850 male US navy recruits from three different locations. These men were on average 20 years of age and approximately two-thirds were Caucasian. Using a shortened form of the SES, approximately 11% of these men reported that they had committed an act that met standard legal definitions of rape.

            Source for previous three

            So yeah, there’s quite a few different studies…all of them paint a pretty dark picture. They are self reported, so the number could potentially be even higher.

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            Maybe this; I quote (I’m assuming I don’t need to CW given the whole thread is but I’ll edit if I’m wrong):

            Computer-assisted self-interviews were completed with a random sample of 163 unmarried Caucasian and African American men in a large metropolitan area. Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completedremoved; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion

            Then again it might be this (depressing I found two candidate studies immediately with a single shitty search):

            In college and community samples, rates of self-reportedremoved perpetration range from 6% to 15%, and rates of sexual assault perpetration range from 22% to 57%

            I didn’t look at either in depth / their methodology; but I wouldn’t be surprised. I am a man and I can count on the fingers of a single hand the amount of men I’ve known in my life that didn’t feel comfortable saying objectifying stuff about women when there were none around.

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              Thanks for posting, I got busy at work. You are correct, congratulations! Your prize is the burden of knowledge concerning our fellow man.

              There were a couple more, but those were the main two I was remembering off the top of my head.

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              . I am a man and I can count on the fingers of a single hand the amount of men I’ve known in my life that didn’t feel comfortable saying objectifying stuff about women when there were none around

              So true and honestly why i never found myself on the #notallmen train because it felt like it was all men but me

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                notallmen train because it felt like it was all men but me

                That’s why I quit teamed sports and having male friends. Have you also been diagnosed with high functioning autism? I think it helps insulate my brain from the gender identity crisis most dudes have gone through recently. Like a thin reflective mylar blanket my autism protects my mind from the joe rogan brain disease particles.

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                  I actually consistently score the lowest of anyone i’ve ever met, including ‘neurotypicals,’ on all publicly available autism and masking tests. I’ve never thought that I’m not a guy but I have felt like I wasn’t meant to live on this planet, certainly.

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                Yeah… I don’t blame you. I’m a pretty traditionally masc dude and I don’t have any male friends anymore. The fucking manosphere bullshit has really made dudes loose what little sense of reality they still possessed. I think having a little more than a touch of the ism might have made me immune?

                My last and longest held male friend ended up transitioning, so now I primarily hang with trans people and a bunch of lesbians from my job.

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                  I totally get it. There’s one (somewhat gender non-conforming) man in my close friend group. There used to be another, but they came out as genderfluid non-binary. I think even if cis men (or people with strong life long privilege because of how they are perceived as men within patriarchy) reject patriarchy, they still have a responsibility to put work into relationships with other cis men. Even if it’s easier to just hang with non-male friends. Someone has to do the work of educating them and why should the main victims of patriarchy have to do it instead of the ones who suffer least from it and benefit the most? Also, I knew multiple cis men (no longer friends), who strongly preferred friendships with women because they enjoyed how their female friends actually had taken time to learn the social skills necessary for a good friendship (like talking about emotions). They let them do all this emotional labor, without ever putting anything in themselves. And without ever trying to change what male friendships could mean. They had male friendships, but would only really open up and be vulnerable to women. If men isolate themselves from other men, men won’t change. They need to take a risk and be vulnerable with other men.

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            Yeah… Definitely not a good thing. I’m a pretty masc dude who’s always gotten along better with women. I played football in school and the way those guys talked about women made me quit teamed sports.

            My best friend from highschool was the only dude I ever really got close too and they ended up transitioning about 5 years ago, we are still besties.

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            I don’t really know if anyone in the last 5 years could even get funding to do that kind of study. Schools kinda started to lock down that kind of research about a decade ago. The studies I was thinking of were from the 00s, back when schools first really started to pretend to care about women.

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      Thats a weird one because he cant even fall back on being poor and that was the only way out (his parents are rich af and he went to a private boarding school as a kid)

      Its one thing to be Butler style figure, you entered it apolitically or desperately or were drafted otherwise forced - and then figured out it was evil inside. But it sounds like he knew it ahead of time and still dreamed about being a lil soldier boy regardless

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        Even if he was from a poorer background, he did 4 tours before joining the for profit death squad. At that point he must have had some money, a pension

        He joined purely out of love for imperialism

        For me, that really was the sticking point from him and I couldn’t understand why so many people fell in line behind him.

        He isn’t even publicly opposed to Israel, which is an excuse I’ve seen thrown around online, his brother in law is a J Street goon, the 99% AIPAC

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    Don’t forget to get someone in rhe media to be ride or die for you like Ryan Grim

    NOTE: Politico’s response to Breaking Points and Drop Site News on the gaps in reporting follows: “This story is based on extensive reporting and interviews and reflects our editorial standards. In interviews with us and in accounts she gave to other outlets, Jenny Racicot said that she told Graham Platner not to come to her home and that he nevertheless showed up there uninvited. POLITICO gave Platner and his campaign ample opportunity to respond to our reporting and to provide any information or documentation they believed contradicted it. If presented with information that materially challenges our reporting, we will report it.”

    Ryan and Saagar discuss exclusive reporting on key details missing from the Graham Platner story.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=j8MStTYqt-M

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      They’re not wrong that they wanna do the equivalent of a coup and run Mills regardless but the Platner campaign and the people who pushed him definitely didnt do themselves or progressive nominal left by picking this fucking guy - and backing him after the nazi tattoo thing and the earlier abuse story

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        It’s win win for the dnc, either get their preference in or can go see they can’t win like we said!

        The question is still is this incompetence on vetting platner or them seeing how bad a candidate can be and win simply by being white and saying Medicare For All

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        The fact they weren’t able to determine that from his actions prior to this is what makes Grim and Sagaar (and all the other glazers) so revolting. He is a gleeful mass murderer. He boasted about converting a grenade launcher into a makeshift mortar after they were ordered to stop using mortars due to excessive civilian casualties - literally just murdering civilians and acting like it makes him a badass. If that and all the other shit he got up to didn’t disqualify him for you, then dropping him now isn’t principled opposition, it’s just fear for your own reputation. I think it’s fair to say they were ride or die, it’s just that he died. They have never had an ethical objection to the guy.