• 4grams@awful.systems
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    One of my family members got into the “blue-green algae” fad (about 5 years after it fell out of mainstream). It was too expensive so they bought the horse algae from veterinarian supply. He said it was exactly the same, as long as you could put up with the grit.

    These people exist (and I’m related to them).

  • myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip
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    If someone wants to drink these, let them. If someone wants to drink gasoline, let them. It’s natural selection at this point. If it’s not hurting you or someone you care about, let them drink gas while smoking.

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      I mean I’m not going to go to their bumfuck nowhere town and take their horse food from them, but I am absolutely going to mock them for it and call them an inbred knuckle dragging FASshole.

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      If they already have kids though, it might be for the best to rat them out to whatever is the child protective service in your country/area (even if they’re inefficient, it’s probably better than nothing). If they’re consuming crazy shit themselves, the possibility of them feeding their kids something that they shouldn’t eat or drink is way higher than it should be

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    It might actually work … until you have to pass a kidney stone the size of an orange

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          ZOG (usually capitalized) is an acronym standing for “zionist occupied government” tied to white supremacist groups that falls into the usual “Jewish cabal runs everything” nonsense.

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            to add to this, with this context, “the zog powder they sell to you” becomes a blantantly antisemitic conspiracy theory: Jewish people are feeding you crap (in this case, gatorade) to keep you weak

            yes it’s ridiculous nonsense, but that’s how dogwhisles work.

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              Definitely. On top of that, bullshit like this contributes to the muddy waters when you have legitimate critiques of zionism and the government of Israel. But I’m sure the white supremacists know that when they create this bullshit so they can make potential recruits feel like more people agree with their horseshit.

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          I missed it too, but he did put a fucking ZOG thing there in lower case. ZOG as for (global) Zionist Occupational Government, the crown jewel of antisemitic conspiracies. His whole speech isn’t about it, but that little casual slip means he is exposed to such ideas and/or ponders them at his own.

          wiki:ZOG

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        21 hours ago

        Eff waiting that long - nothing less frequent than quarterly will do, and preferably monthly. Too many details are likely to be forgotten or skipped in less frequent updates.

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      well obviously it’s not intended or certified for human consumption. that doesn’t answer the question of if it works tho

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        It’s perfectly safe for humans. I’ve been drinking it for weeks without side effects. I have a glass in the morning with my oats. Plus my mane is shinier than ever.

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          me toiiiiu! i haventnttttttttt noticed any sideeeeeeeeer efffffffffffrcts at all ittttts jsutt cheeeeaper! hi icue momeent

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      Honestly, I trust the people making horse electrolytes more than I trust the FDA anyway. You don’t want to piss off horse people, and the FDA has always been more of a corporate liability shield than a safety agency.

      Of course, you’d still have to pay attention to the ingredients and take a small enough amount so you aren’t getting too much of anything, but that would just make it last longer.

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        Like it states in the fact check article, it can be toxic for humans.

        Horses are herbivores, humans omnovores. The stomachs of horses are different to ours. That means there could be certain ingredients which were prepared differently for horses so they are toxic for us, as we lack the ability to digest it the same way as a horse. Like soy for example. The soy used for animal food is toxic for us. The soy used for human consumption is different, of a much higher quality. We can’t digest all soy types properly while herbivores can.

        Another example: horses can eat everything they eat raw. We humans can’t. We need to cook many things otherwise they are toxic (like eggplant) or they are very hard to digest. Horses can eat grass, we really shouldn’t because we can’t digest it properly.

        Conclusion: don’t use products made for animals (food and medicine) even though the ingredients might look safe while they can still be toxic due to different quality or preparation. Except dog and cat food in the US. Both of those are also safe for humans, as people during crisis or extreme poor people tend to eat that so both of those are also brought to FDA standards. But yes, as a European I can agree with you those standards are complete shit. Many FDA safe foods in the US are considered toxic here and aren’t allowed on our market.

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          That link absolutely does not say it’s toxic. It says the FDA doesn’t check if it is or isn’t toxic for humans. That’s not the same thing.

          It’s electrolytes dissolved in water. They’re not adding anything dangerous to that. It would just be a waste of money. Yes, you generally shouldn’t eat animal foods unless you know exactly what you are doing, and you definitely shouldn’t take animal medications, but holy crap, you can be too paranoid.

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            I said the article states it “can” be toxic.

            The article:

            A nutritionist told Lead Stories that people should not take animal supplements or medications without medical advice since the products could be toxic for humans.

            So indeed it did not state it “is” toxic, nor did I claim it to be.

            It’s electrolytes dissolved in water. They’re not adding anything dangerous to that.

            Can you support your claim? Do you have the listed ingredients?

            Also, what electrolytes were used? Do you know what they are?

            Wikipedia:

            An electrolyte is a substance that conducts electricity through the movement of ions, but not through the movement of electrons. This includes most soluble salts, acids, and bases, dissolved in a polar solvent like water.

            Not all salts, acids and bases are safe for human consumption while they could be for horses.

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          I’m guessing anything that provides electrolytes to horses probably has an absurb amount of potassium in it which is usually only put into human drinks in limited amounts cause it can be lethal. I read a story of some dude who drank 8 coconut waters while playing basketball, passed out, and his blood pressure at the ER was 65 over 40.

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          So what you’re telling me is that being tricked into eating a dog treat really isn’t that big of a deal and in fact! relates to the poverty stricken parts of society and the struggles of class warfare so they really just need to get over the whole incident?

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    So, I’m sure this is a bad idea. But can anyone tell me exactly why? Years ago, in a desperate situation, a doctor told us to get antibiotics for fish and use them, and we had to do that a few times. Some animal products are identical or nearly identical to human products, some are quite different…

    With this in particular, how is it different, and why is it bad?

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      Because if you take horse electrolytes, you wake up the next day with your shoes nailed to your feet with an overwhelming urge to shit in the road.

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      Chubbyemu explains it best: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=ifXH86-eIqk

      But basically, the electrolyte balance that’s healthy for a horse is quite a lot higher than what is healthy for a human (due to body mass differences, among other things). The magnesium in the horse electrolyte is actually over the lethal dose for a human if taken as written. You could theoretically take it and be fine if you calculate the proper dose yourself, but by that point you’re better off just buying human products, I guess.

      EDIT: I was thinking of manganese, not magnesium, but that’s 1500% of the daily intake, not necessarily lethal dose. Sodium, though, is over the lethal dose.

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        Just to add to this, on human stuff, they have an incentive to not be sued out of existence for a single fuckup In horse medicine, it’s kind of like “Eh, a stiff breeze could have killed that horse!”

        That bucket of stuff is probably th same ingredients, but sourced from who knows where cheapest biddder, mixed together by eyeballing it for 30 years on equipment that’s probably barely maintained.

        I remember reading up on New Life Spectrum fish food a while ago and they were making the pellets on a salvaged pasta press. No tests for lead or any other contaminants because no one gives a shit about the mental health of ornamental fish. I’m sure it’s slightly more rigorous for horses, but I doubt the sanitation, quality controls, and batch monitoring are up to human grade snuff.

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        I somehow did not get the notification that he posted a new video thank you kind internet stranger. I have been a fan of his work for years

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        Chubbyemu’s videos are great, but sometimes the story seems a little over the top. Then I remember how many people live in this country/on earth and realize those situations must be happening all the time.

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      So, I’m sure this is a bad idea. But can anyone tell me exactly why?

      With this in particular, how is it different, and why is it bad?

      This is how to use what our parents called the information superhighway responsibly right here. Well done Sir/Ma’am/other 🫡

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      I don’t know about this product specifically, but in general, animal food products are not regulated as much as food for people. This means it may not be as safe.

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        Depends on the animal and the jurisdiction. As far as I’m aware, dog and especially cat food is more tightly regulated than human food in the US.

        Horse food though? Not so much.

        And almost no other countries are victims of regulatory capture to the degree that the US is.

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          And almost no other countries are victims of regulatory capture to the degree that the US is.

          That seems hard to believe, considering stuff like the “banana republic” thing - surely, the country that gets couped for the purpose of economic exploitation by a foreign power is captured more thoroughly than a country that had at least somewhat democratic institutions?

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            You’d think so, but guess what country the corporations couping with impunity is almost invariably from?

            Past the propaganda, the institutions of the US aren’t actually that democratic. They’ve mostly been designed by and for the rich and powerful from the beginning but especially since the rise of Neoliberalism in the late 70s.

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              Before Trump, US institutions generally liked to at least keep up the pretense, which means that they often did have to make rules that aren’t as bullshit as they could have been. In south and middle american dictatorships, they don’t have to give a single flying fuck.

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                Before Trump, US institutions generally liked to at least keep up the pretense

                Accurate.

                which means that they often did have to make rules that aren’t as bullshit as they could have been

                Yes, but that doesn’t mean that they weren’t STILL 80-95% bullshit by volume.

                In south and middle american dictatorships, they don’t have to give a single flying fuck.

                And they also don’t have anywhere near the pressure from the most powerful corporations in the world.

                Or elections designed to be unduly influenced by the highly organized and systemic corruption of corporations and their lobbies rather than the comparatively haphazard organization of less official corruption.

                That makes a much bigger difference than the inherent motivation and fear of public resistance of the leaders themselves.

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                  And they also don’t have anywhere near the pressure from the most powerful corporations in the world.

                  Or elections designed to be unduly influenced by the highly organized and systemic corruption of corporations and their lobbies rather than the comparatively haphazard organization of less official corruption.

                  In the case of banana republics, corruption for specific corporations is literally their reason for existence.

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        Specifically around things like cleanliness and packaging. Places that make vet medicine would not pass a health inspection.

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    Wasn’t there a Chubbyemu about this?

    “Presenting to the emergency room….”

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      Yes, there was. Posted 4 months ago. I’ll stick to products intended for humans thank you very much!

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    Alternatively just make snake juice, the ingredients aren't that expensive for all your electrolytes.

    Just be careful about the potassium, that’s the one thing your body can’t easily flush.

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      Man, tell that to my kidneys. I swear every time I get a blood test at the doctor they send me to the emergency room to get another potassium IV no matter how many of their stupid pills I take. That shit burns going into your veins, too. I don’t even have any symptoms. They just all see 2.5 whatevers per whatever of potassium on their stupid number sheet and think I must be dying. I get bad cramps in my legs every night for days after the IV too. I swear doctors just like torturing me.

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        You are aware you’re able to reject treatment up until you drop unconscious and they believe they have to save your life, right? As long as you’re awake and not suicidal you can literally just walk away.

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          Yeah, they say that. Then they say if you refuse they won’t treat your other conditions because you’re non-compliant. Technically it’s true, but functionally they have you trapped if you have any other issues, which I do.

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        Aye, I just make sure to eat plenty of spinach and bananas before and after a small fast (I do at most 2 days, usually just 1). Apparently baked potatoes are also rich in potassium, I never knew until yesterday.

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        Good shout! Best price I could here in Denmark is 149 DKK for 100 capsules though ($23.42 USD / €19.96 EUR), and it says the recommendation is 1-3 capsules an hour? That seems like a lot, but maybe that’s for elite sport and not a couch potato like myself heh.

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        It’s some concoction for days where you fast so you get some of the electrolytes that is expelled from your body as waste.
        I guess one could think of it as “mineral water” because that’s what it contains: just enough stuff for your cells so you don’t cramp etc.