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    I did not sign up to that.

    Yeah. He did. At no point did Trump or MAGA lie about their intentions. From the beginning they said exactly what they were going to do.

    And he signed on. Maybe its because he didn’t believe they would actually do it and now he regrets it. That’s fine.

    But regardless, he literally “signed up to that” and he has to own that.

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    They did this after january 6th as well and then media memory holed everything a couple years later and revised the event. The media will memory hole this as well.

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      remember how the courts gave all of them slaps on the wrist anyways. i think only 1 person rejected a pardon, “she finally realized she was in the wrong.”

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    conscience my arse, where was this any time in the past 20 years, dude.

    You’re just seeing the writing on the wall and trying not to get put up against it

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      You’re almost definitely right, but I think we should encourage it instead of jumping on it. Lets not make it clear that its ride or die for anyone who drank the koolaid.

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      I’m a leftist queer enby who was AMAB and almost fell down the alt-right pipeline and in my ignorance validated the opinions of libertarians. If it wasn’t for positive voices in my life, who knows the demons I would have welcomed in. I see good people around me now echoing, what is blatant to my current perspective, a negative voice.

      I can shame them for not knowing better or I can guide them down the right path. Our environment really can be blinding, my friend. I’m just grateful this man has positive voices from his daughters. Because I was truly stupid and he probably is, and hopefully a was, too.

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        there is surprising amount of LGBTQ+ that are in alt-right echo chambers. especially around white supremacy. i remember seeing a video on yt about adult film star, gay. a black one was calling out a white one at the time how he never associates with poc in the industry only whites, and the white guy gave a half ass answer as to why. your a southern white guy with the accent and all, cant get any obvious than the politics you support.

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      he saw the ICE thing wasnt helping his campaign/run, so he backed out, hes not doing out of his good heart. Also the likely reason why trump is trying throw bovino and noem under the bus. i think it is the reason why ICE was in minnesota in the first place, to help his campaign.

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    I don’t doubt that this guy actually feels anger and is actually struggling with his feelings of guilt and some kind of morality crisis.

    But that’s only because this is actually happening to him and the people he knows firsthand. Because that’s how Republicans are, these types of actions are fine when it happens to others but the minute it affects them personally, then and only then are they all of the sudden concerned about things.

    They just don’t have any sense of empathy or thinking about others at all. It’s just all about me with them.

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      Empathy is something that’s learned. I used to be anti-gay and less empathetic to people of color because I grew up in a super-conservative all-white bubble. When I had some higher-end school friends realize they were gay and started getting to know more and more people who weren’t WASPs, I began to see individual people instead of “others.” And that’s when I started seriously questioning how I viewed the world.

      And a lot of people are on the verge of that social empathy without even knowing it. When you hear someone talk about how Carlos at work is “one of the good ones”, that’s someone who is on the edge of understanding. They actually know Carlos, so they don’t see him as an immigrant, but as a person they like and respect who does good work.

      We have to help them understand that Carlos isn’t the exception.

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      Most Democrats disapprove of what’s happening in Gaza, but I haven’t met a single one who’s left the party over it. This isn’t unique to Republicans.

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    Lol don’t be a republican? Like, it IS what you signed up for dude, where have you been for the last 30 years+???

    Virtue signal bullshit.

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    At this point I will take any ally in this situation. Piece by piece we can and will take this corrupt administration down. With or without any support from either side of the political spectrum.

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    He knows he has exactly zero chance of winning the state when his party is the one sending murdering thugs to it’s streets. Now he gets to pretend to be a good person and avoid an embarrassing loss.

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      I’ll take a republican (maybe) having a conscience or even just abandoning a sinking ship over die hard fascists who would go down with the ship and drag as many people with them as they can.

      At least he’s virtue signaling instead of vice signaling.

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      Exactly.

      No chance of winning so why bother running. Steal what credibility you can and save your effort of sunnier weather.

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    If you registered as a Republican in the last 60 years, that is exactly what you signed up for. You joined the nazis and you knew.

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      In some states the primary is essentially the real election. I can’t fault someone for voting in a republican primary when that determines their fate. In other states there are open primaries and the democratic candidates may be uncontested or you may want to simply vote against someone, like Trump, as many chances as you get. Suddenly you are a registered republican because of the ballot you requested.

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      Many places have or had in the past closed primaries, meaning you can only vote as a registered party member. I wouldn’t complain if people had registered to try and influence from within the system, though that is an uphill battle that may not be worth it and can backfire. Pushing for a weak candidate to try and get the opposition elected is how we got Trump’s first term.

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        This is why I’m registered republican this year

        I’m living in Utah, so midterms are automatically going to whatever name has “Rep.” next to it. If I want to influence anything at all, I need to be able to vote on whose name that is

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    He’s probably pulling out because of polling, but regardless, I appreciate him blaming the GOP immigration policies.

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        Tbf everyone has the right to a fair trial, John Adams himself even defended the British soldiers in The Boston Massacre. Even this loser deserves a trial (and should get convicted imo based on the evidence we’ve seen already, but still he deserves a trial as does everyone else).

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    Has he made any effort to criticise or stand up to to ICE or is it all passive and about himself?

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      Resiging in protest of something usually a way to critique that thing. Not saying he’s doing it for the right reasons or well enough, but he’s no less outcome-focused than someone expecting moral standards from republicans in a lemmy comments section.

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        I’m curious if he has actually stood up and verbalised the his support for their for the individuals of his state. Stepping back is one thing. I am asking he has stepped up or said something for the right cause here.

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        He is and I suppose to some degree openly making statements about the behaviour would likely be a conflict of interest.

        It’s just quite an odd situation. I don’t believe this guy has suddenly grown a conscious, I think he is playing politics, I think most with a conscious would likey say hey AB & C are just not acceptable. He does not seem to have said anything like this. It’s the mild mannered step back and use the family as an excuse. There no sorry. There’s no I stand against violence.

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      Reminds me when Cawthorn was expelled from the party because he ratted them out about the cocaine and orgies.

      Like thats where he draws the line. Everything else was fine.

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        They draw the line at spilling secrets about other Republicans. Remember this hit from Trump’s last term?

        “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” said McCarthy, R-Calif., according to the report.

        Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., has said policymakers in Washington have been too harsh on Russia and should work more closely with Moscow to fight extremist groups.

        McCarthy’s comment prompted laughter from some Republicans in the room.

        House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., told his colleagues to not share the remarks, the Post reported.

        “No leaks, all right? This is how we know we’re a real family here,” Ryan reportedly said.

        It doesn’t matter what happens behind closed doors, as long as you don’t talk about what happens there.

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            When a democrat fucks up, other democrats call for and get a resignation. When a republican fucks up, they circle the wagons and defend the offender to the last breath. Democrats are not Good but don’t act like they’re the same.

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              The majority of Democrats don’t even represent America heir voters, and you think they resign? They fuck up routinely and shitheaps like Schumer and Fetterman are still going strong.

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                  Thinking they’re not says more about you. They are literally some of the highest ranking most important members of the whole group.

                  You still think they represent you, when they don’t.

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      And anyone still one passed that point long, long ago. (Except kids. I feel like the clock only starts once you’re out from your parents’ bubble)