UPDATE: Busted by the Verge, sorry everybody. Fuck.
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Article: Tesla Allegedly Disables Rapper’s Cybertruck After Song Critique.
Just wanted to say, huge props for editing the post and title when you found out it was debunked. That’s so important and too many people just don’t take that step when they learn, so upvoted for that
seems like this should go to court - make tesla prove these claims, and explain how they’re allowed to stifle both free speech and parody.
because this is absolute bullshit
Just one more reason not to buy a Tesla ever.
And honestly, any of those cars that can be remotely deactivated. I’m shopping now, and I really don’t like all the tracking in cars these days…
So you’re going to buy a used car
Yup, but I need to be careful on years because newer used cars still have this crap.
Vintage!
Man, if all electric cars can do this bullshit, then I think I’m gonna just be stuck with an internal combustion engine no matter how bad they are for the environment.
Ain’t no way I’m gonna get into a vehicle that can be remotely disabled by a jackass.
This isn’t specific to electric cars, vehicles equipped with On Star can be remotely disabled in the event of theft (and by extension I imagine a legal injunction). I imagine this extends to other vehicles also.
The real problem is the OTA updates and always-online nature of modern vehicles, not necessarily what powers them.
Yes, but I don’t have to buy a car with OnStar in it. It seems like every electric car has these OTA features at least in the states. In internal combustion cars that can avoid those features. I’d be more than happy to buy any one of these electric cars if I control the updates and there’s no always on connection.
At least w/ OnStar, there are documented ways to disable it, and it’s honestly not all that difficult (basically remove power to the OnStar device). Some cars are more integrated, so disabling that crap is a lot more difficult w/o breaking anything important.
No for sure I hear what you’re saying, onstar was just a handy example, other vehicles have OTA updates also and systems to disable the vehicle.
My point was the tech isn’t specific to BEV it’s becoming a “feature” in modern cars more broadly
Absolutely. If you care about this, search for a YT video or something about how to disable it, and they’ll walk you through it and list the caveats. For example, sometimes it’ll just show a warning on the infotainment center, and other times unrelated functions will break.
BEVs certainly started the trend, but once they showed people will put up w/ it, combustion vehicles followed suit.
Except that it’s all cars that do this why would the car being powered by electricity have any bearing. All cars have computers these days.
No, there’s a few incredibly cheap cars that do not have these features. Also, I’ll just buy used cars. These features don’t exist in hardly any car before, like, 2015.
These devices exist as aftermarket ad-ons and are frequently added by used car dealerships.
I’m fairly sure my car from 2016 has an immobiliser in it. In theory, if the car company wanted to utterly destroy their reputation, they could activate it.
The best defence against this is just how moronically stupid doing so would be. Every other car company knows this.
Yes but most cars with an immobilizer can not be remotely activated unless a specific system is installed which is normally offered as a premium feature. Like if I had a keyless start Ford from 2014 Ford couldn’t remotely shut that car off.
My late friend Robotech_Master once said to me that there are things too bad to be true
Why is anyone still driving piece of shit teslas
The only vehicle I will ever buy is one I have full and total control over. No remote shutdown, no DRM, no limp-home mode, nothing to prevent me from using it and enjoying it.
A company being able to deactivate your purchased property is absolutely dystopian
Not absolutely, because a company being able to deactivate your purchased property for ulterior reasons is more dystopian.
I also suspect the rapper wasn’t exactly praising the cybertruck, so that would add “for
insultingmisrepresenting? a company”. That’s even more dystopian.You don’t have to suspect anything, watch the video. He’s hyping the Cybertruck, hyping, “I’m RICH BEEYOTCH!” This is Tesla trying to distance themselves from that message.
While that song and message are shit, so is Tesla.
This is peak face eating leopards content all around.
Also I wonder if a white rapper singing the same song would have had his shit-pyramid disabled as fast.
Tesla factories have had a racism problem for years.
I have have had it up to here with people calling Elon a racist Nazi with a mangled penis.
I’m just glad they got a power hungry, austistic lunatic in charge now, so everyone can see this is absolutely the end game, before this becomes normalized and people like me get called retarded for not wanting a car that can be remote deactivated.
Autism doesn’t make someone an asshole. Let’s not normalise hatred of neurodivergence
Thank you for calling this out. Autistic should not be derogatory!
The user also dropped the R slur. The “people like me” part stands out to me as a little suspect as well.
Don’t worry about vague stuff, who cares what they think people like them are - just tell them to blow it out their ass for using a slur.
I think his point is that Musk is trying to normalize calling people that word on Twitter. I didn’t get the impression the user was in support of using that word.
Removed by mod
any examples of real insults ?
“Lame.” Now THERE is a REAL insult. What’s the matter? Can’t walk? Ha! Lame. Sit down, lameboi.
It doesn’t but a neurodivergent person can absolutely be an arsehole.
Its not a magic label that makes everything “quirky” and “eccentric”.
Nobody said that. They were simply correcting the misconception that autism is bad.
And i was correcting the misconception that just because someone is neurodivergent doesn’t make them immune to being an arsehole.
Neurodivergent people are people, with all that entails.
Nobody said that.
Nobody said autism is bad (in the chain im replying to), but here we are.
Two statements that never happened with two corrections that aren’t needed apparently.
I see no difference between calling him autistic and calling him narcissistic, except that one of those two mental disorders is one he claims to have a diagnosis for. Let’s fry the bigger fish first and then circle back to autism.
Tell that to the gaming industry
“Free speech absolutist”
So stupid. So petty. Elon needs to grow the fuck up.
He won’t
Also Dinna Eskin, Esq. (wanted to make sure I included the title so I don’t get sued) and all the other soulless people blindly following orders to take home that paycheck and cash in on that stock
The “Esquire” isn’t a reserved title. Anyone can be an Esquire, it means nothing.
Americans use it differently, and there it essentially means “I’m a lawyer”, for all genders.
Yes, but that’s tradition, not law
Actually, it’s very rare for a lawyer to refer to themselves using that title. They’ll refer to other lawyers using it, not themselves. Using it in a signature line is pretty suspect, instead of just “Attory at law”.
I always annoy them by calling them doctor.
Yeah, I apologize for not including the /s there, I should have spelled it E/sq.
*die
We need to make sure that people can’t have this kind of power.
He is a symptom of the real problem.
Clippy moment 📎💬
Unacceptable. It should be illegal to even build the capability to brick someone else’s property
This is a major feature of nearly all cars now. Dealerships can remotely track and disable cars when people fall behind on their payments. That’s because so many people fall behind on payments nowadays, they need easy mechanisms for dealing with it. America is cooked.
Got to love it. My crappy car doesn’t even have Bluetooth, but it does have a CD auto changer. Can’t brick my car.
This should indocate to everyone that you cannot rely on any car to work that has this capability.
Oi! Don’t bring clippy into this! He was an innocent clip from a better era! More like a qevlarr@lemmy.world moment 👎🖕!!
Edit: lol my poor clippy just getting hated on
I agree. I was referring to Louis Rossmann’s Clippy campaign that we should not accept this as consumers but we want technology to help us, like Clippy
Edit: let’s not mass downvote for an innocent misunderstanding, even if they worded it a bit strongly. C’mon now
Those monsters can’t downvite clippy, he’s being held captive against his will.
Honestly, I kinda want to make a clippy bot, hook it into a self hosted LLM and have it roleplay as clippy trapped by Microsoft. It would be a hoot for 30 minutes or so.
So here’s the neat part! They just make it so that you technically are renting the car and so they can brick it up all they want since technically they own the vehicle!
that’s not the case here though
They’ll pull the same crap they do with digital content you “buy.” Technically you’re just buying a license to use the vehicle, not actually buying the vehicle itself.
I don’t disagree, but in this case that is not true, because that is not what the terms and conditions say.
same with the F-35s sold to other countries. and those cost a lot more than even a cybertruck. imagine it being disabled mid-flight. probably entirely possible.
I mean, that’s a tiny bit different. That’s something you want to be sure will never end up aiding a terrorist attack against you.
Cybertrucks only kill people accidentally.
as far as I know (which is not a whole lot) terrorists only fly commercial planes. though I’m sure you can probably find the F-35 Handbook on the War Thunder forums.
That’s the great thing: the government then get to decide who or what a terrorist is! - including oil rich middle East countries
Im pretty sure usaf flies f-35
You say that, but your avatar is not Clippy.
This is a good case to battle the shit out of Tesla in court and set a landmark verdict on the “you buy but don’t own” abuse.
Usually this would however require that courts are capable of reaching proper verdicts, that the government actually cared about the people, that consumer protection agencies had any footing etc. Alas, all of them are infiltrated by the big capital corporations.
Also, how is it protected from a song? Satire and parody are fair game.
or his next hit song: burn down the dealerships /s
I mean, maybe it could work right now, considering how elmo and dump had a falling out. People might be able to leverage dumps pettiness to get a verdict on something like this. Now would be the time to try, though.
I think this actually has a chance, but only because it affects millionaires. in any case the outcome would be very positive as it would apply elsewhere.
Eh effecting millionaires has less effect realistically, but if this could hit the billionaires by having a large settlement that cuts into revenue and effects the stock price you may see a change in tune regarding this type of behavior. Either way I agree this one could actually do something and considering the short term thinking of this administration I could see dump pushing this to Rule against tesla to spite elmo and then consequently giving us a default rulling for other vehicles. What’s the saying a broken clock can still be right twice a day, gotta take the small wins where we can right now.
Imagine:
You have parking lots full of your cars that can’t sell because your CEO is basically in the top 5 of horrible humans.
You have horror stories about kids burning alive in the cars because they couldn’t open the doors.
You have a Rapper, with social following, in Detroit, Motor City, with a 100k model of your car who makes a song about how you’re fucking up, and you shut down his 100k car and send a c&d.
Could you imagine a PR department being this bad at its job?
He could make a music video burning the thing to the ground and make his money back.
I thought Tesla fired their PR department?
No they just replaced it with a keyboard in a room full of cats with grok interpreting the random input.
They would never care for a room of cats. They just put the keyboard under the front door mat.
I’m sure somebody is taking responsibility for it. You can’t do stupid shit and not have somebody else to fire.
That’s strange you don’t think the PR department takes its marching orders from their furher directly
This is what happens when you buy a car from a tech company. There is no reason that a Ts&Cs should ever come with a car - but here we are. For now, avoid any company that does things like this. Top of mind are Tesla and BMW
Calling it buying is the problem. It is proprietary internet connected garbage. It is a rental you paid buyer money for. No one owns a Tesla. No Tesla is for sale, and neither is any car that runs proprietary internet connect software. Someone else ultimately controls it. That person is the real owner. Primitive idiots struggle to understand this exceptionally simple concept. Terms and conditions are you selling your rights as a citizen willing to become a slave to someone else. It isn’t normal. It exists because people are not smart enough to say no and stand up for themselves. I don’t rent one of these shit cars, or watch TV with terms and conditions, or run shitty operating systems, or stalkerware whore myself to bezos’ camera on the front of my home as a doorbell. None of this is actually normal. It’s fools selling their rights as citizens in a democracy for peanuts and IOUs.
Similarly, if you piss off Ferrari, they’ll ban you from buying another.
Yeah but they won’t take away the one you have
Give them a few years. If it’s not explicitly illegal every car company will do eventually.
Depends. Some of them require a full Ferrari support crew and can only run at Ferrari-approved tracks.
Yeah we don’t really care about the rights a few billionaires may have to play with the toys whose cost could have fed countless families.
My outrage only works up to a… Idk, 300k€ price?
300k€
I choose to read this as 300 kiloeuro.
Which would work as intended no? 1 kiloeuro would be 1000 euros ergo 300000 euros. Maybe I’m just dumb and that was the point if so carry on lol
This guy metrics.
Absolutely. I’m just accustomed to seeing the currency sign on the left and prefix abbreviation on the right (ex. €300k). Generally, it gets “expanded” to thousand, million, etc. So, three-hundred thousand euro. The things that amused me is thinking of a kiloeuro as a measurement unit, rather than a currency unit.
Mr “freedom of speech absolutionist” hard at work I see
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