Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    new zitron: ed picks up calculator and goes through docs from microsoft and some others, and concludes that openai has less revenue than thought previously (probably?, ms or openai didn’t comment), spends more on inference than thought previously, openai revenue inferred from microsoft share is consistently well under inference costs https://www.wheresyoured.at/oai_docs/

    Before publishing, I discussed the data with a Financial Times reporter. Microsoft and OpenAI both declined to comment to the FT.

    If you ever want to share something with me in confidence, my signal is ezitron.76, and I’d love to hear from you.

    also on ft (alphaville) https://www.ft.com/content/fce77ba4-6231-4920-9e99-693a6c38e7d5

    ed notes that there might be other revenue, but that’s only inference with azure, and then there are training costs wherever it is filed under, debts, commitments, salaries, marketing, and so on and so on

    e: fast news day today eh?

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    I doubt I’m the first one to think of this, but for some reason as I was drifting off to sleep last night, I was thinking about the horrible AI “pop” music that a lot of content farms use in their videos and my brain spat out the phrase Bubblegum Slop. Feel free to use it as you ses fit (or don’t, I ain’t your dad).

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      tangent: I’ve seen people using this Bubblegum Slop (BS for short) in their social media stories. My guess is that fb/insta has started suggesting you use their slop instead of using music licensed from spotify, or something.

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      further things: one, that’s the first website I’ve made where I wasn’t just plugging into a template, and I’m a little proud of it even though it’s almost nothing. I would appreciate feedback and suggestions

      two, a future episode idea I have is to examine what I’m thinking of as “the trustless society.” it’s about the replacing of social relations with legal or financial intermediaries. Those of you who are long time buttcoiners will be familiar with this process. if any of you have specific readings to recommend I would love to hear it. I’ll probably mostly focus on balaji but anyone or anything will help

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    Pavan Davuluri is apparently the “president of windows and devices” at microsoft. I, for one, am glad that I moved to linux when windows 10 got the axe, before anything tried to agenticify my pc.

    Also, when did “frontier” become “first in lines to drink whatever it is the cult leader is serving up”?

    https://xcancel.com/pavandavuluri/status/1987942909635854336#m

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    Windows is evolving into an agentic OS, connecting devices, cloud, and AI to unlock intelligent productivity and secure work anywhere. Join us at #MSIgnite to see how frontier firms are transforming with Windows and what’s next for the platform. We can’t wait to show you!

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      “Agentic” is meant to seem sci-fi, but I can’t help but think it’s terminal business-speak. It’s the clearest statement yet of the attempted redesign of the computer from a personal device to a distinct entity separate from oneself. One is no longer a user or administrator, one is instead passively waiting for “agents” to complete a task on one’s behalf. This model is imposed from the top down, to be the strongest reinforcement yet of the all-important moat around the big vendors’ cloud businesses. Once you’re in deep with “agents,” your workflows will probably be so hopelessly tangled, vendor-specific, and non-debuggable/non-reimplementable that migrating them to another vendor would be a nightmare task orders of magnitude beyond any database or CRM migration. If your workflows even get any work done anymore at all.

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    Fresh from the presses: OpenAI loses song lyrics copyright case in German court

    GEMA (weird german authors’ rights management organisation) is suing OpenAI over replication of song lyrics among other stuff, seeking a license deal. Judge rules that whatever the fuck OpenAI does behind the scenes is irrelevant, if it can replicate lyrics exactly that’s unlawful replication.

    One of GEMA’s lawyers expects the case to be groundbreaking in europe, since the applicable rules are harmonized.

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    lemmy.ml by way of hexbear’s technology comm: The Economist is pushing phrenology. Everything old is new again!

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38830374

    screenshot of text "Imagine appearing for a job interview and, without saying a single word, being told that you are not getting the role because your face didn’t fit. You would assume discrimination, and might even contemplate litigation.
But what if bias was not the reason? What if your face gave genuinely useful clues about your probable performance at work? That question is at the heart of a recent research"

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    screenshot of text "a shorter one. Some might argue that face-based analysis is more meritocratic than processes which reward, say, educational attainment. Kelly Shue of the Yale School of Management, one of the new paper’s authors, says they are now looking at whether AI facial analysis can give lenders useful clues about a person’s propensity to repay loans. For people without access to credit, that could be a blessing."

    tweet

    economist article

    archive.is paywall bypass

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology


    EDIT: Apparently based off something published by fucking Yale:

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/ai-photo-analysis-illuminates-how-personality-traits-predict-career-trajectories

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/sites/default/files/2025-01/AI Personality Extraction from Faces Labor Market Implications_0.pdf


    Reminds me of the “tech-bro invents revolutionary new personal transport solution: a train!” meme, but with racism. I’ll be over in the angry dome.

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      What does it tell about a scientist that they see a wide world of mysteries to dive into and the research topic they pick is “are we maybe missing out on a way we could justify discriminating against people for their innate characteristics?”

      “For people without access to credit, that could be a blessing” fuck off no one is this naive.

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        I remember back before I realized just how full of shit Siskind was I used to buy into some of the narrative re: “credentialism” so I understand the way they’re trying to sell it here. But even extending far more benefit than mere doubt can justify we’re still looking at yet another case of trying to create a (pseudo)scientific solution to a socially constructed problem. Like, if the problem is that bosses and owners are trying to find the best candidate we don’t need new and exciting ways to discriminate; they could just actually invest in a process for doing that, but trying to actually solve that problem would inconvenience the owning/managing classes and doesn’t create opportunities to further entrench racial biases in the system. Clearly using an AI-powered version of the punchline for “how racist were the old times” commentary is better.

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    (edit: advance warning that clicking these links might cause eyestrain and trigger rage)

    so for a while now sheer outrageous ludicrous nonsense of the trumpist-era USA politics has been making a bit of an impact on the local ZA racists (and, weirdly, not only the white nationalists but also the black nationalists - some of it has shone through in EFF and BFLF propaganda strains), and I knew that with the orange godawful-king ascension to his hoped-throne it was only a matter of time before shit here escalated

    anyway, it’s happened. the same organisation also put up some ads along the main highway ahead of the G20 summit

    (upside: some of those have already been pulled down. downside: the org put up some more. don’t know what’s happened with the latest yet)

    fuck these people

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      Either they’re right, and the bubble pops soon, or they’re too early and it’s another hilarious Softbank L

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        my read of the situation is that it’s another phenomenal softbank L even if they timed this sale at the top of the nvdia valuation. if they thought it’s a bubble popping soon, they would try to get out of openai deals, but they’re doing the opposite. most immediately, they need money to dump 20B-ish into openai by end of the year, triggered by that no-profit transition, and it’s money that they apparently don’t have. that their stock dumped like 15% in a week probably didn’t help either

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            if you think it’s stupid, it’s not as stupid as it sounds, it’s worse. they also sold some tmobile stock and took debt backed by ownership of arm. it’s like they instinctively get rid of pieces of ai bubble that retains some money and hold to pieces that are black holes

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            ok, cool. when does he start selling off all the super limited-edition anime waifu merch? asking for a friend

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      TIHI

      I reiterate the hope that AI slop, will eventually push us towards better sourcing of resources/articles as a society going forwards, but yikes in the meantime.

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      Michael Hendricks, a professor of neurobiology at McGill, said: “Rich people who are fascinated with these dumb transhumanist ideas” are muddying public understanding of the potential of neurotechnology. “Neuralink is doing legitimate technology development for neuroscience, and then Elon Musk comes along and starts talking about telepathy and stuff.”

      Fun article.

      Altman, though quieter on the subject, has blogged about the impending “merge” between humans and machines – which he suggested would either through genetic engineering or plugging “an electrode into the brain”.

      Occasionally I feel that Altman may be plugged into something that’s even dumber and more under the radar than vanilla rationalism.

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        Occasionally I feel that Altman may be plugged into something that’s even dumber and more under the radar than vanilla rationalism.

        I think he exists in the tension between rationalism/transhumanism and what he can get away with selling to the public, and that necessarily means his schtick appears dumber and more incoherent. He’s essentially got two major groups he’s trying to manipulate simultaneously; true believers and those who have yet to be persuaded. As he runs out of hype on the public-facing side, it’s suddenly a desperate scramble to keep the true believers that make up the bulk of his workforce on board. Hence his pivot to marketing his latest and by far most important product: publicly traded shares in OpenAI.

        Apropos of nothing, L. Ron Hubbard died in a dingy trailer in Creston. Ever been to Creston? It’s a long ways from Hollywood.

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        Pretty sure this brand of cyborg fantasizing is quite popular in mainstream rationalism, unless you’re reading something more creative in this than superbabies, brain uploading and HDMI to visual nerve for undetectable on-demand pornography.

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          ‘Genetic engineering to merge with machines’ is both a stream of words with negative meaning and something I don’t think he could come up with on his own, like the solar system sized dyson sphere or the lab leak stuff. He just strikes me as too incurious to have come across the concepts he mashes together on his own.

          Simplest explanation I guess is he’s just deliberately joeroganing the CEO thing and that’s about as deep as it goes.

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            ‘Genetic engineering to merge with machines’ is both a stream of words with negative meaning

            Iron-compatible osteoblasts that build bio-steel! Synapses with silicon, no, make that graphene neurotransmitter filters in the gap! C’mon, Sam, hire me and we can technobabble so much harder than this!

            I must insist on cash payment, though. No stock options. And I prefer to be paid weekly.

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            “What if we figure out DNA well enough that we could edit a babby to grow NAND gate cells and put a calculator inside their body so they can do instant arithmetic like a computer?”

            I assume he’s talking about that kind of stuff, but being vague so you can’t call him out if he gets details wrong.

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              Brb gonna go collect a trillion dollars for my startup idea that makes babies grow a malignant style parasitic twin that is actually a compute farm