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    Yeah that’s a no-go. The lawn extension must be kept less than 12" tall under city ordinance, and you need a license if you’re going to sell or give away those vegetables…

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      I was worried about this and called the city/township and turns out, as long as it’s cultivated, my plants can be as tall as I want!

      I can’t make a fence with trelliseseses though. They were very adamant about that.

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      you need a license if you’re going to sell or give away those vegetables

      Wait what?

      Does come with a cost?

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    Just remember that most microplastics come from tires so you kinda don’t want to have food you eat growing right next to the road

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      You know where and how they grow the food you buy (assuming you don’t always buy organic at the farmers market)?

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      Could make everything within ~3ft of the road non-edible natives, either companion plants for the food or native cultivars to help pollinators (which in turn, will help the edibles closer to the house). So there’s still a way to make this work!

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        From low-speed, light vehicles? I can’t imagine it would be significant compared to farms on the interstate with 50,000+ lb 25,000 km) trucks going 70+ mph (110 km/h) nearby.

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      Somewhere between 9 and 28%, depending on the source. Far from “most”, but I learned something new today

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        It’s going to vary a lot depending on the road, specifically traffic volume and speed. Or, a four way stop where loads of drivers slam their brakes right in front of your property would probably also be pretty detrimental. For a quiet neighborhood street it would be paranoid worrying about micro plastic in your cucumbers imo.

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          Gotcha, garden in sleepy neighborhood, good. Garden on pit road at Talledega, bad.

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      bigotry against marginalized normadic people is not exactly very solarpunk

      i suggest building solidarity instead

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        I can’t build shit when they steal my stuff man.

        Jokes aside, I live in Serbia. It’s not “bigotry” here, it’s just being aware of your surroundings. But you always welcome to come here and prove me wrong.

        Upd. Considering amount of downvotes I assume answer to my comment would be something like “you right and I hate you for this, but have nothing to say in my defense, so here your downvote”. Fine by me.

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          People downvoting you don’t have any experience with organized theivery purporting itself as a custom. Plenty of respectable Romani that don’t act like con artists and crooks, but there are also plenty still causing the stigma to remain. Especially in Eastern Europe.

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            Why not call it criminal gangs, when that is what it is? Making an entire ethnic group responsible for the actions of some is racism.

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      One thing you’ll find out about a lot of MAGA-heads is that a lot of them just despise Democrats to their core and think Owning The Libs is more important than whatever the fuck Trump is actually up to.

      Very common to see this kind of guy up in New York or Massachusetts or out in California, where its barely more than a protest vote against whatever D-branded ghouls - your Newsoms and Cuomos and Katherine Clarks - are currently ruling their state. My dad was a staunch environmentalist, a shameless outspoken anti-racist, and a die-hard Reaganite. I still don’t understand it to this day, but he made the math work in his own head somehow.

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        My Maga neighbor will tell you how much he hates all the Black people in the neighborhood.

        I don’t think it’s a good idea to tell people to waste their time and energy on people that are not going to be saved. You can use that energy to help your own people and it is a much better use of it.

        And you know I’m going to take this a step further and ask you why the fuck you assume we’re not having conversations with those people? It’s them refusing the conversation. What rock have you crawled out from under?

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        i tried. he then walked up to my house when i was not home and asked my wife, who also complimented his garden, “what position are you in when thinking about me and my garden?”

        so … trump flag + sex pest. = he can fuck off.

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    Give it three weeks of good sun and enough rain, and all those plants will be very happy, twice the size, and unruly as it comes. Much more “anarchy” than these neat rows.

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      They mean like this:

      But, a lot of neighborhoods don’t have them:

      I specifically bought in a neighborhood with sidewalks, because kids. But, as GenX I didn’t anticipate that GenZ would be the first generation that didn’t play outside all summer like we used to.

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        GenZ would be the first generation that didn’t play outside all summer like we used to.

        Idk where you live but going outside in August is absolutely brutal down in Texas. All the kids go out in Fall and Winter, when the weather is much more bearable. You’ll have the running trails packed shoulder-to-shoulder for half a mile as soon as temperatures get under 90. But not a degree before.

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        This drives me nuts, I know sidewalks are an extra cost. But I’d happily pay a portion to get some put in around us.

        I don’t live in an HOA, but I swear all the surrounding neighborhoods just don’t want them to keep the “riff raff” out. Still I ride bikes with my kid in the mega HOA neighborhood across the street, a lot flatter. Have to ride in the storm gutter if a car comes by.

        They are building another mega HOA housing development next to the current one, houses at double the price. They certainly won’t have sidewalks because it’s targeting 60+. No restricted by age, but by money. They’ll probably put a gate on it too.

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              I think they’re commenting that the sidewalk is super skinny. I legit didn’t see it at first glance.

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                The sidewalk is 36” (1m actually) with a 12” curb.

                It’s large enough for wheelchairs to get by. The road is also 40’ wide so two cars can pass with parking along each side. The vehicle in the back provides some scale.

                Plus the bins in the back, they’re atleast 24” by 24”, clearly the sidewalk is wider.

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              I think they’re saying that sidewalk is too narrow, which it does look minimal compared to the street, like a wheelchair would have a hard time, especially with the edge curving down like that.

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                It’s a 40’ wide road with a 36” sidewalk and 12” curb. People can pass a wheelchair going down it fine. Look at the vehicle and the bins for scale context.

                It think they’re trying to funny that there’s no shoulder, which would just waste space on a 40km/h residential road that is filled with parking after school and work.

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                  a 36” sidewalk

                  So… About the minimum for a single person to walk with little leeway, normally in a safe indoor area with no car traffic?

                  36" is the absolute bare minimum required walkway space in the US by ADA to technically be wheelchair compliant in that a single wheelchair user might be able to use it, roughly half the minimum 1.8m clear width recommended by Australia’s Department of Transport, and less than half the 2m minimum unobstructed walkway space recommended for pedestrians in low-traffic areas by the UK’s department for transport. This is undeniably too narrow.

                  That road looks wide enough for about 4 cars, it’s not a “waste” to surrender some of that to make it slightly less hostile to pedestrians.

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        My city only requires sidewalks depending on how much vehicular traffic, how much foot traffic, and if kids are expected to navigate that street to get to school. And even then “one side” doesn’t mean “same side.” My house and the one next to my neighbor have the unfortunate yards missing sidewalks, meaning people have to use my next-for neighbor’s sidewalk, cross the street, use my neighbor’s sidewalk, and then can continue down until they have to cross the street again because the sidewalk is unusable at a certain point.

        The reasons we have missing and broken sidewalks are that:

        1. The city won’t help pay for them
        2. The city has strict regulations on how they’re installed
        3. The 50-foot run of sidewalk would cost more than a car to install, and since they’re often seen as insurance liabilities, it’s practically impossible to get a reasonable loan to cover the up-front costs.

        “My yard is the shitty impediment because I can’t afford to fund a public service” is not one of the sad realities of home ownership that I expected to encounter.

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          My city has a sidewalk renovation program, which is great.

          I have a corner lot and practically triple the sidewalk my neighbors have. Cost me over 4 grand to have the city mandated sidewalk repairs done. Kind of a pain, but it was cheaper to get it bundled with them than to have a contractors come out and fix it.

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          The city has strict regulations on how they’re installed

          Could you install a very narrow terrace at the front of your yard?

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      Walk up the driveway, than under the wooden pergola at a 90 degree angle, than it turns to the house.

      Driveways are parts of sidewalks, don’t need a seperate one if the driveway is wide enough to walk past the cars.

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    This looks like an inexpensive hobby where labor cost is not factored in when you gift your neighbors extra food instead of preserving it. The neighbors might love you, but this is not really sustainable if you don’t get anything in return.

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      Such a rotten mindset. “Neighbors might love you” but “you don’t get anything in return”.

      Love is not nothing man! Even if you can’t quantify it into moneys.

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        I enjoy that immensely myself when gardening. I’m just not suggesting this as a generalizable way to feed (or organize) society which the word anarchism suggests.

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        Indeed. I’m just criticizing OP suggesting this might be a way to structure society in general. I’m a fan of anarchism, but like many idealized political systems it doesn’t work as advertised. Same for communism and capitalism. That’s why sensible nations have long chosen social capitalism.

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          Ararchism works great so long and the entire group is committed to the plan, and retains the power to expell any person who tries to take advantage. To each as required, from each as able is more arnarchistic than communist. It’s the attempt of one in group to obtain and retain that power of expulsion that leads to a power structure.

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      Yeah… Why would I want to share a few bottles of plum mead I made with friends, nothing in return!

      Much better to sit inside on your own without any friends and never speaking to anyone. Makes it easier to blame minorities for all of the problems in society too.

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        Except the blame minorities part, I don’t mind the sit inside on my own bit, as a hermit by nature. I’d still grow stuff to share with the community as much as I’m able though. Just because I don’t want to interact with people face to face doesn’t mean I don’t care that they are fed

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      Food preservation is a lot of work, better to spread it on many shoulders. Usually what happens is that the neighbours return some glasses of jam etc. as a thank you.

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        O.O

        I’ve seen how my neighbors park their cars and look after their kids. I would not trust them to make anything that requires precision and attention.

        Botulism is no joke.

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    It’s all fun until you end up doing all the work and people come trample it trying to get food. Maybe that’s just a California problem…