-Graham Platner, 8/2014 (In response to a post about an all out war against the IS)
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Starting to really sour on the “second chance” “rehabilitative justice” shit. It’s increasingly being used as a cudgel against socialist politics. It’s not even an actual fucking aspect of historical socialism to believe in it necessarily and social fascists use it as a gotcha against us for not wanting some evil dipshit associated with our movement.
I think it’s great if some former troop realizes that was wrong and starts working towards a better world as a rank and file member of the DSA or PSL or whatever.
But it’s always some fucker whose first appearance in progressive politics is trying to run for office, isn’t it?
I wasn’t aware that “rehabilitative justice” meant voting for the proud Iraq war criminal with a giant nazi tattoo on his chest playing dumb about its obvious meaning. Guess I just don’t understand radlib theory
My opinion on troops that realize that everything they’ve done wrong at a moral level has always been “good, keep your head down and shut the fuck up”.
And then you get called “carceral” by some know-nothing radlib.
This saga is maddening. This guy HAS to be an op, there’s no other explanation for why the Dems are all circling the wagons to defend him like this. I mean compare it to how much pearl clutching we got from the very same Dems over Mamdani’s statements on Palestine.
I mean even if nobody in a dark room said “let’s run this guy to discredit progressives”, the actions of the Dems in this case compared to others reveal just how truly evil the Democratic party is.
There’s definitely some weird astroturfing of this going on too. I don’t post about American politics on Twitter, but this stuff crept into my timeline despite never posting or searching for info about it. And almost every post was some variation of…
‘I’m a totally legit communist person of colour & if you care about this guy’s nazi tattoo then you’re doing Peter Thiel’s work for him’
…or…
‘This is definitely a hit job by Palantir & the NSA as how could they have possibly found social media posts by him. If you don’t embrace the Nazi Merc the real fascists win!’
I don’t doubt that somewhere in this shitflinging that creepy data analysis tools were used and that posting online is basically opting into a panopticon that will be used against you in the future if it needs to be, but acting like this is the unearthing of some teenager’s porn views decades later, instead of a guy who still has Nazi tattoos and is running partly on the fact he was a volunteer for WarCrimes Inc until recently, is unhinged.
This whole saga has got me marveling at the shift into the “post through it” era.
Al Franken, a sitting US senator, was accused of being a bit of a creep (to be clear, the shit he was accused of is unacceptable behavior, but I think most people would assume that pretty much every male senator/congressman does or has done worse), then those allegations panned out and were corroborated by others, and the resulting outrage lead to his resignation all within the span of about two months. He resigned in 2018. That was still normal back then, if you had a major scandal you were pretty much done for. Sure the shift was occurring to always posting through it but even Republicans couldn’t get away with that consistently yet. A very popular US senator was led out behind the shed by top party officials and put down because of sexual misconduct allegations, meanwhile less than a decade later some guy who is just planning to run for something is caught with Nazi iconography etched onto his body and steadfastly defending others with Nazi tattoos is being defended to the hilt by those same party officials. Not only is he instinctively trying to post through it, but the rest of the Democratic apparatus is instinctively trying to post through it with him. Imagine if they could do productive things at such a breakneck pace.
The metoo movement led to increased scrutiny of the al franken case. When Biden had a ton of accusations the party openly abandoned metoo during the march 2020 shenanigans
Politicos collectively asked themselves “what if we didn’t force our nazis and sex pests to resign after the big scandalTM?”, realized the answer was “nothing”, and gave us the world we live in now
I think it’s more that they saw Trump constantly trying to ignore all that shit and get increasingly rewarded for it. The biggest political mistakes he made in his first term were all from acting like the kind of politician for whom “How dare you sir? How absolutely dare you?” is a knockout punch.
By the second half of his first term the entire Republican party had embraced his approach and once Bernie started making headway in 2019 the Dems quickly followed suit.
Win back men? No… I don’t think I will
He’s calling it, Operation WinBack.
i dunno guys, he did say ACAB, that he was a communist and, between serving a few tours in the US Marines, Blackwater and with this development about a SS tattoo on his chest?
he kind of sounds like a genuine centrist.
I’m honestly super curious what his definition of “communism” is
Communism is when you kill 9 million people
—this guy probably
I think I can get it done for that budget as long as we’re not including rev numbers.
“Stalin’s spoon should have been bigger!”
Eww get bernie off the bottom left
Sometimes I wonder if I’m still not holding onto some reactionary views I never purged from my head, but me having a full blown totenkopf tattoo and having been a blackwater merc for 18 years really pales in comparison.
Sometimes I wonder if I’m still not holding onto some reactionary views…
In all seriousness - we all can improve here or there. But I also do not have a full blown totenkopf tattoo and I wasn’t a blackwater merc for 18 years.
We have some people here who were former far right. They aren’t even in the same league as this dude. None of them are proud of it and none of them would ever remotely defend tours in iraq, afghanistan or working for a dark merc company doing america’s dirty work. It’s fucking absurd how bad this guy is.
I was a “far right” teenager, but the worst thing I did was make some edgy posts making fun of liberals. I would surely never do that again that was really terrible of me… 😢
None of them are running for public office.
I had a gamer gate phase at 16. I’m not running for office though because I’m way to autistic and would look weird to normies
I had like a 6 month AnCap phase.
Yes I was like 15.
I had a desktop background with the word “removed” as a teenager (don’t know if anyone here remembers Maddox, but this was his influence). Then my older sister saw it and (verbally) beat the shit out of me until I removed it in shame. I owe her a lot.
I also don’t have a totenkopf or did 18 years in Blackwater.
I had a desktop background with the word “removed” as a teenager (don’t know if anyone here remembers Maddox, but this was his influence). Then my older sister saw it and (verbally) beat the shit out of me until I removed it in shame. I owe her a lot.
I also don’t have a totenkopf or did 18 years in Blackwater.
I do have a few potentially problematic Norse runes tattooed on my ass from that one time I got blackout drunk in Oslo.
However, I wasn’t a Blackwater merc for 18 years.
problematic Norse runes tattooed on my ass
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Oh yeah 100% same.
Its so unfair that people judge me by my words and deeds
I rarely spend any time at all at Reddit. But his take really makes me laugh because when I used to post there regularly - if politics or the news were involved - I’d often go into people’s histories and look around. It’s something you can’t do in real life. If you overhear somebody in public who seems like a nasty piece of work - you can’t go backwards back hours or days to hear what they said and to check if you’re right. But you certainly can go backwards on social media.
And it can be so funny when you quote people back to themselves. They can get so mad when you show others that yeap, this person is a turd. See? This is what they wrote just yesterday.
They recently added the ability to hide your post history and its made reddit way less fun
Oh, shit. I had no idea. I wonder if regular people (non-assholes) hide their histories too. For me half the fun was having a look in there.
The moment Reddit got rid of n-word count bot, it was over.
Don’t support blackwater mercs. Don’t double down when they show off their nazi tattoo.
I’m guessing he calls the military socialist and thinks communism is when the government does stuff.
How can you get out of the shower every day and see that tattoo and do nothing? I never trusted a blackwater merc but shit. The state of the so-called left in this hell society is depressing.
The amount of liberals I’ve seen defending this guy today saying “we all make mistakes” is a bit mind-boggling. They really do not care if you’re Nazi, as long as you are THEIR Nazi. They were in an uproar about Pete Hegseth’s crusaders tattoos, the totenkopf concentration camp nazi tattoo is worse, it’s definitely worse, both are bad, but holy shit liberals do not give a fuck. Can’t wait for 2026 when the next democrat has a swastika on his forehead and liberals will tell you gotta vote for him.
I mean, whom amongst us hasn’t gotten a nazi tattoo and then travelled overseas multiple times to murder non-white people? Give the guy a break
Girls night out!
He is only 100% Hitler. Are you telling me you want 101% Hitler? That’s not cool.
Liberals have waxed poetic about the most murderous and genocidal empire in history since the USA was a thing, and the British Empire before it turned into a corncob.
They have always loved genocide.
It’s insane I’m 100% done with anyone defending this guy
I’m actually starting to think this guy might literally be an op to discredit “progressives” and we’re going to need a new, much stronger version of
for the “progressives” who fall for it by supporting him.But more likely “progressives” in Amerikkka are actually this bad and intelligence agencies don’t need to run ops to turn them into nazi defenders for the small possibility of social democratic reform.
I think it is long past time to write an epitaph for the “Progressive Movement.” “Long arc of history” libs, epitomized by the Congressional Progressive Caucus. There is no need for the intelligence agencies to run ops when these people gladly elect billionaires, fighter pilots and intelligence agents in an effort to out-do the chuds demonstrating loyalty to the empire as an electoral strategy.
i think when people discuss oldish-school “progressivism” in the future, they will consider the proud Iraq veteran with a giant Nazi tattoo calling himself a progressive as the point at which the movement was definitely 1000% dead
Personally, I think it’s more accurate to say Graham Platner dug up progressivism’s dessicated corpse and is puppeteering it around with sickening glee
I don’t even think he’s an op. I think America just makes guys Like That naturally at this point.
starting to think this “planter” guy may be some kind of a plant
wait, what the fuck is a platner?
does this guy have a nazi tattoo or did he defend people with nazi tattoos or both? i havent been following along.
also what a reddit-brained response. the whole “you’re not allowed to look at my post history” is a reddit thing because everyone on there is a reply guy in nsfw subs posting the grossest shit you can or even cant imagine.
Just to add context, he claims his totenkopf and the “bolts” (SS insignia) that his fellow marines/soldier boys had were just gotten as a show of team spirit and that it’s clearly preposterous to suggest that soldiers in the US army would be nazis.
Fuckin wild
well there it is right there, why is anyone mad, that totenkopf and ss bolts are just the regular symbols of the team
Defending people with Nazi tattoos is a cherished liberal tradition, so that’s a given, but yes in this instance he also has one himself
does this guy have a nazi tattoo or did he defend people with nazi tattoos or both? i havent been following along.
im pretty sure both.
Both, is my understanding.
I had no idea who this guy even was until just now. Was he really popular in leftist circles or something?
No one heard of him until maybe a couple months ago. I don’t think he has DSA connections or anything. Went directly from some extremely obscure local office to Bernie endorsement and liberal media circuit. Seems very artificial to rise so quickly, with no apparent difficulty, and no opposition from Dem establishment.
No one heard of him until maybe a couple months ago.
Screams op all by itself even without considering all the nazi shit
Aren’t the Dems running an old lady against him? I thought that’s why there was so much hubbub, it seems like it’s a contested primary (otherwise it makes the people covering for this Nazi even more embarrassing)
yeah, the primary is really reflecting the two factions inside the party: 95 year old centrists who can no longer walk or speak, vs fake leftists who turn into raging right-wingers at the first opportunity, but maintain “populist” cultural signifiers. A big part of the party is backing the 2nd strategy apparently.
Is this the guy Hassan has been talking about recently? Or was that someone else?
yeah thats him. fwiw Hasan has not been a tattoo defender, and seems to no longer be a fan of this guy. Low bar but good to see.
Kinda seems like a fumble inherent to the medium. If you’re just gonna stream of consciousness into a camera for hours on end, you’re inevitably gonna eat crow on a half-formed opinion that was rushed out to fill dead air. Aping the style of cable news, but without the hundreds of hours of behind-the-camera labor that goes into making it all look off the cuff and effortless.
tbh this would have all blown over if he did a ukulele song apology instead of whatever this is
